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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby LarryHoward » Tue May 05, 2020 4:37 pm

Audrey wrote:Orange is fast, but I'm hoping it matches the rest of the car. "Arrest Me" Red.

Some big wires showed up yesterday along with terminations and bus bars.



I have a portable hydraulic crimper for those big wires at work. If you have the desire, I could probably make it available. Be easier if you weren't so far away and locked down.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby BeauV » Tue May 05, 2020 8:07 pm

What are the BIG WIRES for? Starter motor??

I still have to upgrade to larger wires on the Morgan. When I got to 12.5:1 compression, the starter motor has suffered. It needs a higher voltage.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Audrey » Wed May 06, 2020 9:57 am

LarryHoward wrote:I have a portable hydraulic crimper for those big wires at work. If you have the desire, I could probably make it available. Be easier if you weren't so far away and locked down.

Thanks Larry, I may take you up on that if it won't get you in trouble. I bought a hammer crimp which I've seen people get mixed results on. I plan to do a couple test crimps and cut them to see how they turn out and get the feel. If they're sh*t, then I'll reach out to you for the proper tool.

Beau, yes starter motor and distribution block for accessories. Some nitrous solenoids pull 30-40 amps to make sure they function at 1,000 psi. I'll be running an additional fuel pump, elec. fan, water pump, and other accessories. The battery (1 or 2) will be in the trunk to a kill switch. For cranking I could've probably saved a bit and went with a 1/0 cable, but even with mild 10.6 compression it's still turning over a 10.3 liter engine. This way, if I ever wanted to swap pistons and go race only, the cable won't need to be upgraded. I don't like voltage drop. :D

Why so much cable? Clean bus for sensitive electronics, ECU or progressive controller, and the dirty bus for everything else that doesn't wig out from a voltage spike. Tests have shown that turning off the electromagnet on a solenoid can cause a huge voltage spike (almost 400 volts). Diodes are another option but they're difficult to implement in an engine bay.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Audrey » Wed May 06, 2020 10:01 am

BeauV wrote:I still have to upgrade to larger wires on the Morgan. When I got to 12.5:1 compression, the starter motor has suffered. It needs a higher voltage.

How much do you need? If you have the time to wait until late winter/spring, I'll send you what I don't use. 1/0 is plenty for the Morgan.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby BeauV » Wed May 06, 2020 6:37 pm

Audrey wrote:
BeauV wrote:I still have to upgrade to larger wires on the Morgan. When I got to 12.5:1 compression, the starter motor has suffered. It needs a higher voltage.

How much do you need? If you have the time to wait until late winter/spring, I'll send you what I don't use. 1/0 is plenty for the Morgan.


Thanks, but I am pretty sure I don't need 1/0. I've got some wire left over from wiring the 180 Amp Alternator into MAYAN. That'll probably do the trick. My granddaughters want A RIDE IN BENJAMIN (the name of the Morgan). They ask about every two days: "When can we go for a ride in Benjamin??!?"
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby kimbottles » Wed May 06, 2020 6:38 pm

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Audrey wrote:
BeauV wrote:I still have to upgrade to larger wires on the Morgan. When I got to 12.5:1 compression, the starter motor has suffered. It needs a higher voltage.

How much do you need? If you have the time to wait until late winter/spring, I'll send you what I don't use. 1/0 is plenty for the Morgan.


Thanks, but I am pretty sure I don't need 1/0. I've got some wire left over from wiring the 180 Amp Alternator into MAYAN. That'll probably do the trick. My granddaughters want A RIDE IN BENJAMIN (the name of the Morgan). They ask about every two days: "When can we go for a ride in Benjamin??!?"


Heck, I WANT a ride in Benjamin!
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby BeauV » Wed May 06, 2020 6:39 pm

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BeauV wrote:I still have to upgrade to larger wires on the Morgan. When I got to 12.5:1 compression, the starter motor has suffered. It needs a higher voltage.

How much do you need? If you have the time to wait until late winter/spring, I'll send you what I don't use. 1/0 is plenty for the Morgan.


Thanks, but I am pretty sure I don't need 1/0. I've got some wire left over from wiring the 180 Amp Alternator into MAYAN. That'll probably do the trick. My granddaughters want A RIDE IN BENJAMIN (the name of the Morgan). They ask about every two days: "When can we go for a ride in Benjamin??!?"


Heck, I WANT a ride in Benjamin!


Well, there you go. I better get it running!
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby LarryHoward » Wed May 06, 2020 6:50 pm

Audrey wrote:
LarryHoward wrote:I have a portable hydraulic crimper for those big wires at work. If you have the desire, I could probably make it available. Be easier if you weren't so far away and locked down.

Thanks Larry, I may take you up on that if it won't get you in trouble. I bought a hammer crimp which I've seen people get mixed results on. I plan to do a couple test crimps and cut them to see how they turn out and get the feel. If they're sh*t, then I'll reach out to you for the proper tool.


Let me know if you need it and we’ll work something out.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Audrey » Mon May 11, 2020 9:28 am

Thanks Larry, I did a test crimp and cut it in half. Turned out much better than expected so I'll just stick w/ the hammer crimper.
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Heard from the paint guys. She'll be ready for pickup on Tuesday. Weather looks promising. Still needs clear and buffing but I think it'll turn out nicely.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Audrey » Mon May 11, 2020 9:29 am

I'll get a shot when it's all put together and clean for a change.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby kimbottles » Mon May 11, 2020 9:54 am

Looking nice!
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Audrey » Thu May 14, 2020 8:36 am

I haven't seen photos of the trunk and wing yet but I'm optimistic they'll get that put back on today. I believe these are the 'final' photos of the hood.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby LarryHoward » Thu May 14, 2020 10:13 am

Shiny is good. Nice color match.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Audrey » Thu May 14, 2020 6:52 pm

Just got the word, they'll wash it tomorrow and I can pick it up. :D
Money well spent. No way I could've done anything remotely close.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby BeauV » Fri May 15, 2020 3:01 am

WOW! That looks GREAT!!! I love red/black as a combo.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby H B » Mon May 18, 2020 12:28 pm

I rewired the boat with a hammer crimper and it seems to have worked out OK. The hardest part was finding a solid place on the boat to put the darn thing when I beat on it. :thumbup:
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Audrey » Tue May 19, 2020 10:20 am

Yeah, the boat would be difficult to find something solid. I just used the anvil on the big vise. Harry home owner one went to a customer.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Tim Ford » Tue May 19, 2020 1:17 pm

Aside from my usual garage envy, I now have paint shop envy....
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Audrey » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:30 pm

Update, terrorizing the town as usual. These were taken at Sasha's home away from home. The gas station...
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Ajax » Mon Jul 13, 2020 5:45 am

Good Lawd, that's impressive.

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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby BeauV » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:18 am

Really a terrific job! Amazing how beautiful the paint job looks.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby kimbottles » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:03 am

Sexy vehicle!
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Jamie » Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:52 am

Oh wow. I'm sure it sounds as good as it looks, too. You must get a lot of "attention" driving that around!.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Audrey » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:53 pm

Track day will be in the next few weeks again. The 100 shot is good to go, put a bottle through it testing. Too much gear for the 1/4 so we'll stick to 1/8th mile for now. The paint match is perfect. I couldn't be happier. I've picked up a set of small tires and rims to get involved in some of the no prep racing that's big right now.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby H B » Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:11 pm

Audrey wrote:Track day will be in the next few weeks again. The 100 shot is good to go, put a bottle through it testing. Too much gear for the 1/4 so we'll stick to 1/8th mile for now. The paint match is perfect. I couldn't be happier. I've picked up a set of small tires and rims to get involved in some of the no prep racing that's big right now.

Trevor, it looks really awesome, dude. I live vicariously thru you as I try to get tasking in the rest of my world done to focus on getting my '91 Civic that started at 92HP (18.078 sec) and I hopped up to 135-ish HP down the 1/4 mile again. I think I can get it to maybe a 15.xx car with the motor swap. It is all relative. I am not sure my heart could survive a run down the strip in your car.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Audrey » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:24 am

Thanks HB. And it is all relative. Making a car 3 seconds faster is no easy feat no matter what it is. Now a days people think it's easy to make 1k HP, they watch folks on youtube do it and deadens the senses. Most folks have never driven a 500hp so anything above that is just a number. They don't have any appreciation for how tough it can be. I blame turbos. :lol: "just turn it up" it's easy. They don't show the 2 blown motors to get to that stage, the dyno tunes, long hours of fabricating headers and then redoing them 3x to get them right. All that stuff takes forever and is ex$pen$ive.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby BeauV » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:04 pm

Audrey wrote:Thanks HB. And it is all relative. Making a car 3 seconds faster is no easy feat no matter what it is. Now a days people think it's easy to make 1k HP, they watch folks on youtube do it and deadens the senses. Most folks have never driven a 500hp so anything above that is just a number. They don't have any appreciation for how tough it can be. I blame turbos. :lol: "just turn it up" it's easy. They don't show the 2 blown motors to get to that stage, the dyno tunes, long hours of fabricating headers and then redoing them 3x to get them right. All that stuff takes forever and is ex$pen$ive.


+100 on this! ^^^

I eventually tossed them and bought professional bits, but I build four sets of intake manifolds for the dual side draft webbers on the Morgan. The first set made the care almost undrivable, it wouldn't run below 1,500 RPM. I slowly got better and better at it, and it was sort of fun. But the instant I put in the professionally designed and built manifolds the car was 14 seconds faster around the track. So frustrating.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Jamie » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:00 pm

A lot of cars become un-drivable after too much power. The frames and general infrastructure of the car are not up to snuff without basically building a new car. For example more than 500hp at the wheel in my STi is no longer fun both in terms of driving experience and maintenance.

People often don't think about the maintenance aspect. Joe the factory mechanic can no longer work on your car. Coolers and front mounts mean a lot more pipework - more inspection points and points of failure. Your car is no longer start and go.Even a simple mod like forged pistons means waiting each time you start up the car for the oil, not the water temp, to get to operating levels before adding load to help slow the inevitable bell-ending of the bores. It means a cocktail of engine oil that is regularly replaced and checking the levels every time you start the car or add gas and any consumption recorded. It means monitoring your air oil separator for any "changes". It means your air filter get replaced at 2x the intervals. It means your gear oil gets upgraded and replaced twice as often. It means your upsized rotors get replaced every second time you change your pads - and that is with nice two piece gyrodisc rotors (not drilled, not slotted) and good project mu pads. It means if you are going far, you need to bring your laptop to diagnose and clear potential CELS - no one else can help you. Proper PM means periodically doing 4th gear pulls with the laptop plugged in to see if everything is still functioning within tolerances, all the duty cycles ok. If you have any other systems like an MW50 system, you need to maintain that as well - another reason to bring your laptop - if you have failure you can't fix, you need to load the non-meths ECU map. Now that I moved to FL from OR, I adjusted my ECU map to reflect the changes in ambient temps, and I'm not running much power - maybe 320whp/320 torque and 420 at the crank. In hot weather I run out of turbo, and in cold I run out of injector duty cycles!

I'm always impressed by people who can mod and maintain high powered cars by themselves.
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby Slick470 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:51 am

Jamie, that right there is why pretty much every car I have owned has stayed mostly stock. I think all of that is cool as shit, but I don't have the time, patience, or organization to stay on top of all that and I have done most of my own maintenance and repairs for years. Up to and including a short block engine re-build.

We bought our first Subaru last October. An Ascent. I keep seeing all of the mods people are doing to them. Engine tunes, replacement hoods with scoops, body lifts, larger tires, etc... and I want to do all that too, but it just seems like too much of a process and at what point do I start voiding warranties. I think it will stay stock. Hell, I even bought the pre-paid maintenance package on this one...
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Re: 69 slowmaro

Postby kimbottles » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:05 am

I have enough trouble keeping up with my custom one off vessels.
I will just enjoy these custom cars via you guys.
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