Shawn's House Reno - projects scattered all over the place

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Re: Shawn's House Reno - projects scattered all over the pla

Postby LarryHoward » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:58 am

This electrical talk is why my new garage has it's own meter and 200 amp feed. I have 4 outlet circuits (A,B,C,D) staggered around the sides, every 3 studs with 12 ga wire and 20a outlets. basically, you can plug in high draw tools in 4 outlets in a row and each is on it's own GCFI/AFCI 20 amp circuit. The 3 openers are on a separate circuit. The "boat shed" in fed by another dedicated 20 a circuit with both a breaker in teh panel and a cutoff switch where it leaves the garage to go underground.

One of the things we will do (and part of the decision on if we do a renovation or a tear down and rebuild) is to update and refresh all of the electrical that has grown or been modified since 1952.
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Re: Shawn's House Reno - projects scattered all over the pla

Postby Olaf Hart » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:33 pm

The Son of the PO of our little farm was an electrician, so we have oversized circuits everywhere, to the house, the workshop, the guest house and Sweet Hart’s pottery. Inside and outside outlets.

We even have four outlets in the fields!!
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Re: Shawn's House Reno - projects scattered all over the pla

Postby TheOffice » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:34 pm

LarryHoward wrote:
One of the things we will do (and part of the decision on if we do a renovation or a tear down and rebuild) is to update and refresh all of the electrical that has grown or been modified since 1952.



just don't touch the lead based oil paint!
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Re: Shawn's House Reno - projects scattered all over the pla

Postby LarryHoward » Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:03 pm

TheOffice wrote:
LarryHoward wrote:
One of the things we will do (and part of the decision on if we do a renovation or a tear down and rebuild) is to update and refresh all of the electrical that has grown or been modified since 1952.



just don't touch the lead based oil paint!


:D

With block walls and metal lath and plaster finished, moving walls (part of the plan) and adding a partial second story (MAYBE part of the plan) is a job for the pros. My B-I-L ran a home improvement company for years and has looked at our scope and recommended that if we go with the second plan (add a partial second story) that we should consider at least a partial and maybe a pull down to the foundation and rebuild. To paraphrase him, we'll never get a firm estimate on moving walls and making significant infrastructure mods as no contractor can see inside the walls to be sure what is there. Says we'll spend more in material but save a lot in labor and time if we take away the 68 YO stuff and start new. Adds that that way we will have new services, better insulation and freedom to carve up the space any way we want. Suggests we might even be able to get a Fixed Price bid and get the job done quicker aswell.
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Re: Shawn's House Reno - projects scattered all over the pla

Postby BeauV » Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:39 am

LarryHoward wrote:
TheOffice wrote:
LarryHoward wrote:
One of the things we will do (and part of the decision on if we do a renovation or a tear down and rebuild) is to update and refresh all of the electrical that has grown or been modified since 1952.



just don't touch the lead based oil paint!


:D

With block walls and metal lath and plaster finished, moving walls (part of the plan) and adding a partial second story (MAYBE part of the plan) is a job for the pros. My B-I-L ran a home improvement company for years and has looked at our scope and recommended that if we go with the second plan (add a partial second story) that we should consider at least a partial and maybe a pull down to the foundation and rebuild. To paraphrase him, we'll never get a firm estimate on moving walls and making significant infrastructure mods as no contractor can see inside the walls to be sure what is there. Says we'll spend more in material but save a lot in labor and time if we take away the 68 YO stuff and start new. Adds that that way we will have new services, better insulation and freedom to carve up the space any way we want. Suggests we might even be able to get a Fixed Price bid and get the job done quicker aswell.


Larry, back before we found MAYAN we had asked Wayne to quote on building a new Alden schooner. It was only about 2x the cost of MAYAN plus all the upgrades and we would have a completely brand new boat. I figured out the reduced maintenance was worth it for any boat which hadn't been nearly completely rebuilt. But, David had already dumped almost 50% of the build price into MAYAN rebuilding the hull and deck. Funny how the cross-over between new and rebuild gets close on projects.

Of course, but then lovely ladies about my age wouldn't keep coming up and saying: "I've PARTAAAED on that boat with David!"
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Re: Shawn's House Reno - projects scattered all over the pla

Postby H B » Sat May 23, 2020 10:49 pm

Progress is slow, the weather is improving and COVID-19 restrictions are easing. But, there is progress. I learned today that the mud you use on the shower floor is not the same mud you use on the curb.Who knew?
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