Now I've done it!

[Olaf Hart]

Bob, an alcoholic is someone who drinks more than his doctor.
If you stay with this doctor you are at risk of becoming an alcoholic.

[kdh]

Bob, I had cancer, so I know that it doesn't hurt. That's usually a problem because you don't know you have it. My sister in law has a friend's daughter with the same disease I had (Hodgkins). She's the same age I was. 18. I wrote my cancer story down in a letter and sent it to her as I think it might help her. Hodgkins has been curable for a long time, around 50 years, though the side effects of treatment have lessened over the years.

When I go in to the Jimmy Fund clinic for a once-over every 10 years or so I ask them, "if I were diagnosed with the same disease now, what would be the treatment?" They don't know. Seems like they should.

[kdh]

Bob, I choose woman caregivers whenever I can. I find them to be better than men at giving care, generally. They have reasonable egos and are willing to answer questions. My primary is Dr Wu. I find her attractive. My mom told me once that she had a crush on our pediatrician when we were growing up.

[Orestes Munn]

Bob, I choose woman caregivers whenever I can. I find them to be better than men at giving care, generally. They have reasonable egos and are willing to answer questions. My primary is Dr Wu. I find her attractive. My mom told me once that she had a crush on our pediatrician when we were growing up.

At PT, yesterday, I made a string of therapy appts and the clerk asked whether I preferred a male or female corpsman, or whoever does this there. I was stumped. My natural and lifelong preference is female (I just love the society of women), but how do you say that without looking like an old perv—the old perv I most certainly am? I told her to pick the first available.

Women docs have an interesting difference in style from males, at least early in their careers. Medicine, in order to be efficiently and insightfully practiced, must be heuristic – driven. The problem is that medical education is only capable of teaching algorithms and the rest is self-taught. Some women, at least of my generation, often seemed to have difficulty making he switch, not trusting their instincts, and staying late into the night following the local, and not necessarily even the right, recipe with great faithfulness, long after many of their male counterparts had signed out. The good ones obviously always made the switch and I find girls these days have been schooled in self-confidence, which may be what this is about, but I still know a few old ladies who seem stuck in checklists.

[bob perry]

Kieth:
My optometrist in Seattle was Dr. Wu. She was pretty cute.
I'd prefer a male primary care giver.
I don't want one of those George Costanza moments when being examined, "It moved!"
For a masseuse though I want a woman.

Eric:
Tennis today? Or not. Hang in there buddy.
OLD PERV is a great name for a boat sailed single handed by an old guy like me. I can see the boats moving away as soon as I drop anchor. Perfect.

[kdh]

Moe, Atul Gawande, the checklist guy, lives about a mile from where I'm sitting. I find the question of how to train and use medical pros fascinating. What was surprising to me, and you've conveyed this in your note, is how non-scientific medical training is. That's good and bad.

Medical science seems messy to me, much like my field of application (finance, stock picking to be precise).

I got a male masseuse once through being bashful about my preference. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Of course, I can't admit to enjoying it.

I find fun the challenge of making my rectal exam with Dr Wu completely calm and "no big deal" professional. We're pretty good. She's a cool cat.

I have a friend who's a physician. He admits certain situations are never completely professional. And generally not in a good way, unfortunately.

[Orestes Munn]

Moe, Atul Gawande, the checklist guy, lives about a mile from where I'm sitting. I find the question of how to train and use medical pros fascinating. What was surprising to me, and you've conveyed this in your note, is how non-scientific medical training is. That's good and bad.

Medical science seems messy to me, much like my field of application (finance, stock picking to be precise).

I got a male masseuse once through being bashful about my preference. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Of course, I can't admit to enjoying it.

I find fun the challenge of making my rectal exam with Dr Wu completely calm and "no big deal" professional. We're pretty good. She's a cool cat.

I have a friend who's a physician. He admits certain situations are never completely professional. And generally not in a good way, unfortunately.

If picking stocks were as easy as prediction in medicine, hoo boy!

Gawande is a smart guy and has written a lot of good stuff.

Who gets taught heuristics and by whom?

A mature clinician with good social skills and a sense of humor doesn't mind a little awkwardness. I actually enjoy it, but I've maybe come out the other side of mature.

[BeauV]

I've generally chosen female docs because I've found them willing to discuss things more readily. When something's broken in me I read everything I can find and want to understand whats going on, having a doc who will discuss it matters to me. I'm pretty sure I'm not actually improving my level of care with all this reading, and I might just be bugging the docs who are trying to take care of me. But, I feel a hell of a lot better being able to talk to the doc and have them at least appear to listen.

My current doc is a woman who's only a little older than my daughters, which has its own set of oddities.

[kdh]

Beau, I feel exactly the same way.

Though I have a great relationship with my cardiologist, who is male. He's fine with my internet-obtained understanding of stuff, and is happy to engage me even when my thoughts are against the common wisdom. I think he respects my statistical abilities a bit. He calls me "doctor" too, which is a little strange.

[Orestes Munn]

Beau, I feel exactly the same way.

Though I have a great relationship with my cardiologist, who is male. He's fine with my internet-obtained understanding of stuff, and is happy to engage me even when my thoughts are against the common wisdom. I think he respects my statistical abilities a bit. He calls me "doctor" too, which is a little strange.

My father used at say he was a "real doctor", not a physician.

Spent a few hours at work, meeting with my group and whacking inneffectually at the bureaucracy.

PT exercises feel too damn good.

[Tim OConnell]

Bob, I choose woman caregivers whenever I can. I find them to be better than men at giving care, generally. They have reasonable egos and are willing to answer questions. My primary is Dr Wu. I find her attractive. My mom told me once that she had a crush on our pediatrician when we were growing up.

I also prefer female doctors for their better care giving, and bedside manner. My current doc is excellent. She's French, has a great sense of humour, a horny accent, and wears tight tops and fashionable jeans. I call her Doc Jeans .
I go to a different lab if I need blood pressure and pulse tested !!!

[kdh]

I followed you Tim other than "horny accent."

[BeauV]

Greek and French women can say the most ordinary things in the sexist way!

[Olaf Hart]

Sexiest?

[Orestes Munn]

Sexiest?

Are these old goats even listening to the words or just looking and sniffing the scents?

[bob perry]

In this context I like "sexist". It makes you think.

[Orestes Munn]

In this context I like "sexist". It makes you think.

I'm happy either way. Content-schmontent.

[BeauV]

In this context I like "sexist". It makes you think.

It was a typo.... but it's interesting this way also.... hmmm.....

[Soñadora]

I have no problem with women being sexist.

bring it on. Sniff the Glove!

[bob perry]

Not sure I'd want a woman who wasn't sexist.

I know my part and it's not negotiable. I want a woman who knows her part.

That said, in my house we have switched many of the sexist roles. I cook. I clean. I do laundry. And,,,,I'm damn good at it. And I like it.
I still open doors for women. Of for nothing else than to see the surpirse on their faces.
My parents brought me up like that.
I walk on the outside of the sidewalk.
I'm comfortable with those sexist behaviors.
I think I may be more of a "traditionalist" than a "sexist".
But I'm old.

[Orestes Munn]

I was fired from laundry years ago. Still cook and clean a lot.

[LarryHoward]

I was fired from laundry years ago. Still cook and clean a lot.

I was a single parent for a few years. I'm still allowed to do my own laundry. I can do hers - at my own risk.

[Soñadora]

I suck at laundry.

Actually, I'm not even sure who does laundry in our house...

[BeauV]

I was fired from laundry years ago. Still cook and clean a lot.

I was a single parent for a few years. I'm still allowed to do my own laundry. I can do hers - at my own risk.

Larry, I got fired from doing the Admiral's laundry after somethings magically changed color in the washer Ah well, I guess it's quote day for me, I keep remembering my old man:

Never Do A Bad Job Well

I still cook, although I'm nowhere near as good as the Admiral, I am the Person In Charge of burning stuff on the grill.


Bob, I still do the door opening thing, and when the Admiral reaches for the door to open it herself I quickly lock it with the keyfob. It really shocked her when we first started going out, she thought it was a little odd as no one had done that for her since her Prom in High School. Now she's trained and actually enjoys it.

I think a lot of the stuff, like walking outside of the woman on the sidewalk etc... is directly linked to a sexist job I take quite seriously. My job it to keep my family safe - that's just one of the parts of it. I'm the guy with the baseball bat and the one who chases animals out of the yard and garden (and the basement a few days ago). It's the only excuse I have for eating more than she does and being bigger, thereby getting in the way more.

Besides, she likes all this stuff, that's why she picked me and made me a VERY happy guy.

BV

[Orestes Munn]

Larry, I got fired from doing the Admiral's laundry after somethings magically changed color in the washer Ah well, I guess it's quote day for me, I keep remembering my old man:

Never Do A Bad Job Well

BV

I bet it still fit perfectly well, too!

Words to live by.

[Rob McAlpine]

There used to be a bangin hot RI cardiologist who owned and raced a J29. She was fun.

[bob perry]

Eric:
How are you doing?

My stupid irritated nerve is alive and well but I'm kind of used to it now. It goes away when I sleep.

[Orestes Munn]

Eric:
How are you doing?

My stupid irritated nerve is alive and well but I'm kind of used to it now. It goes away when I sleep.

I seem to be OK, as long as I move very slowly. The leg hurts whenever I stand, but the weakness is improving and I'm just going to have to live with pain for a while.

On Thurs, walked the 1.5 mi from work to PT and back, very slowly, but without much problem. Went in for a meeting with one of my project teams on Fri. Worst problem during the week was insomnia and irritability form the steroids, but I'm off now. Got a good sleep last night after making martinis, cooking an easy dinner for wife and daughter who's here for the weekend, and cleaning up. Most standing I've done yet.

Swept and vacuumed a little this am and went to the Mall to buy a mattress. Managed to avoid that hellhole for five years and then had to go there on a Sat a.m. with a painful polyradiculopathy, but I shall slumber on 4 Gs worth of squooshyfoam on Mon night!

Now, to the gym and out for dinner.

[bob perry]

Shitski Eric. If you keep using those long words next thing your mouth will be hurting too.

[Orestes Munn]

Shitski Eric. If you keep using those long words next thing your mouth will be hurting too.

Oh, ho, sez the high priest!