Scantlings

Delta marine is IN!

Go Hawks!

Let's hope they don't give us heart failure like they did a couple weeks ago.......says the fair weather fan (in other words I am not much of a football fan, but they ARE OUR team.)

Among the many things I'm involved in is looking for early evidence of chronic traumatic encephalopathy in living people. Watching football is just too icky, now, but y'all (and my wife) enjoy.

Orestes Munn wrote:Among the many things I'm involved in is looking for early evidence of chronic traumatic encephalopathy in living people. Watching football is just too icky, now, but y'all (and my wife) enjoy.

Yeah, I hear you Eric, I have employed about a half dozen former NFL players, great guys, wonderful employees, but they have paid a price.

About the time the game starts you can usually get a table at your favorite eatery with little to no wait, as long as there is no TV in the place.

Cherie320 wrote:About the time the game starts you can usually get a table at your favorite eatery with little to no wait, as long as there is no TV in the place.

Perfect supermarket or Home Depot time, too.

Usually Super Bowl time is best bike ride of the year for me. No auto traffic.

But as a fair weather Seattle fan, I will likely do as I did for the last game, set up the Revmaster (quiet) stationary bike and ride as I watch.

kimbottles wrote:Usually Super Bowl time is best bike ride of the year for me. No auto traffic.

But as a fair weather Seattle fan, I will likely do as I did for the last game, set up the Revmaster (quiet) stationary bike and ride as I watch.

It's always a dark, and often too cold, for an outdoor workout, around here. Tomorrow night it's going to be snowing, too. I might get out for a few miles in the a.m., though.

I gave away my junky old turbo trainer when we moved, so now I'm doing indoor intervals on the spin bikes at the gym. If I want to get totally nauseated, I can turn on the disco ball lights.

Apparently not many football fans around these parts. We could always talk about F1.

JoeP wrote:Apparently not many football fans around these parts. We could always talk about F1.

Right!

Will Button and Alonso get along OK? Will Honda power bring McLaren back to the front of the grid? Will Seb find happiness at Ferrari? Will MBZ continue their domination? How will RB fair without Seb? Will Riccardo continue to shine? Will the American based team make the grid and if so will they bring Danica with them? So many important questions!

Will Force India fold? What happens if only 16 cars are the maximum grid? Will Bernie try to enforce the 3 car team rule and can anyone build and field a 3rd car before the summer break

McLaren Honda putting in good laps today at Jerez. Vettle happy (for now). Lots of F1 to discuss.

There was a football game Sunday. Somebody won.

LarryHoward wrote:Will Force India fold? What happens if only 16 cars are the maximum grid? Will Bernie try to enforce the 3 car team rule and can anyone build and field a 3rd car before the summer break

McLaren Honda putting in good laps today at Jerez. Vettle happy (for now). Lots of F1 to discuss.

There was a football game Sunday. Somebody won.

If you think Vettle was happy how do you think Button feels now secure for two years? I bet he is "Chuffed" as he likes to say. I really like Button, he seems like such a nice guy, a lot like Webber.

But I believe Alonso is still the best driver in F1.

kimbottles wrote:

LarryHoward wrote:Will Force India fold? What happens if only 16 cars are the maximum grid? Will Bernie try to enforce the 3 car team rule and can anyone build and field a 3rd car before the summer break

McLaren Honda putting in good laps today at Jerez. Vettle happy (for now). Lots of F1 to discuss.

There was a football game Sunday. Somebody won.

If you think Vettle was happy how do you think Button feels now secure for two years? I bet he is "Chuffed" as he likes to say. I really like Button, he seems like such a nice guy, a lot like Webber.

But I believe Alonso is still the best driver in F1.

Not sure anyone is safe in F-1 if the team wants them out but was happy to see Button not pushed out. A little uncomfortable with the 3 tier driver situation. A few championship caliber, a few "pay to play" and the trend toward looking for the next boy wonder and casting aside excellent drivers for 17 year olds with kart and A year of F-3. I guess everyone wants the next Vettel.

That and the way Bernie, despite saving F-1 back in the 70's seemingly trying to kill it today. We could end up with a 4-5 team circus the loses relevance, fan base and spirals F-1 back down.

How, exactly, did the Troll "save" F1 back in the 70's?

Seems to me he just turned it into another corporate circus while sucking out $billions for himself.

Frankly I've never found it more boring than it is now. I long for the days when Sir John Surtees could build a front runner at home in a 2 car garage and Dan Gurney nearly ditto. Granted it was insanely dangerous then but that was completely unrelated.

My rant on the Super Bowl.

Years ago, I enjoyed the NFL, however, my viewing has declined to practically nil, and with what has been learned about head injuries, and the general hypocrisy of the league, I make it a point not to watch it. On top of that, the pace of the game is glacial (according to a study, a 60 minute game has 12 minutes of actual play), and the off-field and on-field behavior of many of the players ranges from criminal to insufferable.

Rant over.

Bull City wrote:My rant on the Super Bowl.

Years ago, I enjoyed the NFL, however, my viewing has declined to practically nil, and with what has been learned about head injuries, and the general hypocrisy of the league, I make it a point not to watch it. On top of that, the pace of the game is glacial (according to a study, a 60 minute game has 12 minutes of actual play), and the off-field and on-field behavior of many of the players ranges from criminal to insufferable.

Rant over.

I'm gona like you a lot, I can tell!

Bull City wrote:My rant on the Super Bowl.

Years ago, I enjoyed the NFL, however, my viewing has declined to practically nil, and with what has been learned about head injuries, and the general hypocrisy of the league, I make it a point not to watch it. On top of that, the pace of the game is glacial (according to a study, a 60 minute game has 12 minutes of actual play), and the off-field and on-field behavior of many of the players ranges from criminal to insufferable.

Rant over.

How many actual minutes of play do you have in an NFL Game?

I mean time when the ball is active.

SloopJonB wrote:How, exactly, did the Troll "save" F1 back in the 70's?

Seems to me he just turned it into another corporate circus while sucking out $billions for himself.

Frankly I've never found it more boring than it is now. I long for the days when Sir John Surtees could build a front runner at home in a 2 car garage and Dan Gurney nearly ditto. Granted it was insanely dangerous then but that was completely unrelated.

By the time the troll bought the rights, nobody wanted F-1, it was failing, drivers were dying and tracks didn't care.

Bernie turned into a circus, but one that was more regulated, took care of driver safety (mostly) when no one else would sign up to run the game. The other payers didn't care or didn't want to.

May not like what it has become, but it is in my opinion better than it was other than I'd like to see more purse sharing (too much difference between the rich and the rest), a less prescriptive rule with in season development rather than the homologation at the beginning of the season and Mercedes wins every race where they don't suffer a breakdown or crash.

I suspect F-1 might not be around today if Bernie hadn't stepped in. It is time, though, for him to step out.

I have collected oxymoronic names for a long time.... my favorites are things like:

military intelligence
jumbo shrimp
etc....

but recently it dawned on me that: "Spectator Sport" is another one that belongs on the list.

Perhaps this is because the sports I like are completely and totally uninteresting to anyone but those participating in them.

OK, I'll go to my next meeting, have a drink and stop being a grump.

Larry, I agree with your last point but not the rest. It was Jackie Stewart who changed the safety aspect. He and the drivers had to fight FOCA and the track owners tooth & nail for every scrap of safety.

The Troll owned FOCA when the safety improved but he was forced into it, it wasn't initiated by him. He'd been a team owner through the deadliest years and did ZERO for the drivers.

The only thing he did was to grab the TV rights and boost the $ in the sport (and make himself a multi-billionaire).

SloopJonB wrote:Larry, I agree with your last point but not the rest. It was Jackie Stewart who changed the safety aspect. He and the drivers had to fight FOCA and the track owners tooth & nail for every scrap of safety.

The Troll owned FOCA when the safety improved but he was forced into it, it wasn't initiated by him. He'd been a team owner through the deadliest years and did ZERO for the drivers.

The only thing he did was to grab the TV rights and boost the $ in the sport (and make himself a multi-billionaire).

I think we can agree that he is well past his use by date and F-1 needs something to encourage innovation and "interesting development." I'll still front up for a trip to COTA when my son graduates from college. F-1 and other motorports that include more than straight lines or left only turns give us a lot of father-son bonding and I'll support that as much as possible.

Will Jr. finally get the championship he deserves? Will both Busch brothers get punched out again? Could Kevin possibly win another?

Sorry, wrong room:-)

LarryHoward wrote:

SloopJonB wrote:Larry, I agree with your last point but not the rest. It was Jackie Stewart who changed the safety aspect. He and the drivers had to fight FOCA and the track owners tooth & nail for every scrap of safety.

The Troll owned FOCA when the safety improved but he was forced into it, it wasn't initiated by him. He'd been a team owner through the deadliest years and did ZERO for the drivers.

The only thing he did was to grab the TV rights and boost the $ in the sport (and make himself a multi-billionaire).

I think we can agree that he is well past his use by date and F-1 needs something to encourage innovation and "interesting development." I'll still front up for a trip to COTA when my son graduates from college. F-1 and other motorports that include more than straight lines or left only turns give us a lot of father-son bonding and I'll support that as much as possible.

Wait a minute, sausage courses are all left turns and straight lines (sort of zig zaggy upwind though).

BeauV wrote: ...the sports I like are completely and totally uninteresting to anyone but those participating in them.

Interesting view. What are some that you like?

Olaf Hart wrote:

Bull City wrote:My rant on the Super Bowl.

Years ago, I enjoyed the NFL, however, my viewing has declined to practically nil, and with what has been learned about head injuries, and the general hypocrisy of the league, I make it a point not to watch it. On top of that, the pace of the game is glacial (according to a study, a 60 minute game has 12 minutes of actual play), and the off-field and on-field behavior of many of the players ranges from criminal to insufferable.

Rant over.

How many actual minutes of play do you have in an NFL Game?

I mean time when the ball is active.

According to the study mentioned in the New Yorker, 12 minutes out of a game that has 60 minutes nominally. Another maddening thing is that a television broadcast including half-time, etc. is at least 3 hours long. I enjoy soccer, having played in high school, college, and most of my adult life.