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Residential Solar

Posted:
Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:39 pm
by Orestes Munn
Anyone done it?
We have a proposal from a company who say we can install for very little if we sell them our SRECS and take advantage of about 6000 bucks in federal and state credits and grants. Appears our SRECS are particularly valuable, since we are on a District feeder line and their credits are more generous than Maryland's.
They guarantee we will produce 90% of the predicted 76% of our annual power requirement or pay the difference and offer 20-25 year service and hardware coverage. I hear the mini-inverters fail a lot, so good service is key.
Anything else in particular to watch out for?
Re: Residential Solar

Posted:
Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:49 pm
by BeauV
Any guarantee or warranty is only as good as the solvency of the company. Are they a stable well funded company??
Re: Residential Solar

Posted:
Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:56 pm
by LarryHoward
SRECs are not in anyway assured. Until this latest legislative session, MD SRECs were essentially worthless. Now, with a renewable goal higher than in state power production, we can pay higher power bills to out of state suppliers.
Look hard at the contract. Who pays when renewables grow and SRECs crash in value as they did over the last 5 years?
Re: Residential Solar

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Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:22 pm
by Orestes Munn
LarryHoward wrote:SRECs are not in anyway assured. Until this latest legislative session, MD SRECs were essentially worthless. Now, with a renewable goal higher than in state power production, we can pay higher power bills to out of state suppliers.
Look hard at the contract. Who pays when renewables grow and SRECs crash in value as they did over the last 5 years?
One of the options is to sell them our 4.69 DC SRECS at 1800 per credit to defray installation cost. The offer is good for a month and I am inclined to take it.
Re: Residential Solar

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Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:28 pm
by Orestes Munn
BeauV wrote:Any guarantee or warranty is only as good as the solvency of the company. Are they a stable well funded company??
They are one of the biggest operators and have been around for a while. That said, their reviews are mediocre on service.
Re: Residential Solar

Posted:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:12 am
by TheOffice
I'd check out Solar City (if this is not the outfit you are talking to). Combine the panels with the lithium pack and you are pretty much self sufficient.
We have a wood roof, so they won't touch us.
Does this outfit do boats?
Re: Residential Solar

Posted:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:28 am
by Orestes Munn
TheOffice wrote:I'd check out Solar City (if this is not the outfit you are talking to). Combine the panels with the lithium pack and you are pretty much self sufficient.
We have a wood roof, so they won't touch us.
Does this outfit do boats?
Wood roof, as in cedar shakes? Not Solar City. They seem to have even worse reviews. I have a good electrician who did the installation on the boat.
Re: Residential Solar

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Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:34 am
by TheOffice
Yup, cedar shakes.
First I need the bimini, then the panels.
Re: Residential Solar

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Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:32 am
by Rob McAlpine
Would you do it without subsidies and tax credits?
What is the net cash flow payout period, with and without subsidies?
Re: Residential Solar

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Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:48 am
by Orestes Munn
Rob McAlpine wrote:Would you do it without subsidies and tax credits?
What is the net cash flow payout period, with and without subsidies?
Hayull no!
...but that doesn't mean I mind subsidizing solar conversion as a common good. Public transit hasn't been commercially viable since the 1950s and never will be again, but it still makes life better for everyone, even rich people.
According to this particular company's proposal, with subsidies, we break even in four years, even at our tiny consumption level.
Re: Residential Solar

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Wed May 03, 2017 9:26 am
by Orestes Munn
Still undecided about this. We dumped the first company, who were clearly interested only in cashing in on installing hardware and buying up SRECs and found another, privately held, outfit with much higher up-front costs, but who use top quality stuff and are serious about servicing it.
Here's their proposed payback schedule, rating our SRECs at 350/kw instead of the 450, which they are currently paying. They also low-balled the production estimate. Clearly not a huge economic benefit, though.
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Re: Residential Solar

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Wed May 03, 2017 12:58 pm
by Soñadora
love the concept of residential solar (or wind, for that matter).
But here's how I want it: zero up-front costs and an immediate reduction in my bill. I know that might sound ridiculous, but that's what it will take for existing construction. It's a no-brainer for new construction.
Re: Residential Solar

Posted:
Wed May 03, 2017 4:02 pm
by Orestes Munn
Soñadora wrote:love the concept of residential solar (or wind, for that matter).
But here's how I want it: zero up-front costs and an immediate reduction in my bill. I know that might sound ridiculous, but that's what it will take for existing construction. It's a no-brainer for new construction.
I think you can have that if you lease the gear...or lease your roof to the company or however those deals work.
Re: Residential Solar

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Wed May 03, 2017 5:50 pm
by Olaf Hart
OM, is that for a panel plus battery system?
Re: Residential Solar

Posted:
Wed May 03, 2017 6:54 pm
by Orestes Munn
Olaf Hart wrote:OM, is that for a panel plus battery system?
No battery. Panels and a SolarEdge optimizer-inverter system. However, there is economic "storage," in that one gets cash credit for excess power pushed to the grid.