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Has anyone here actually gotten a printer to on a home network to reconnect in a functional way after going to sleep? About 3 Times out of 5, ours pretends not to hear devices, but shows up on the router and responds to pings. Only turning it and the router off and on gets it back online. Have assigned it its very own IP address and futzed with every other setting I can think of, short of keeping it awake. We are updating the router today, but I am not optimistic.

Orestes Munn wrote:Hey,

Has anyone here actually gotten a printer to on a home network to reconnect in a functional way after going to sleep? About 3 Times out of 5, ours pretends not to hear devices, but shows up on the router and responds to pings. Only turning it and the router off and on gets it back online. Have assigned it its very own IP address and futzed with every other setting I can think of, short of keeping it awake. We are updating the router today, but I am not optimistic.

IP network printer or Bonjour? If you're not using, you might consider it. This has solved a host of problems for us. Apple even supports Bonjour on Windows. At my old company, it ran all the printers regardless of what OS they were running.

BeauV wrote:

Orestes Munn wrote:Hey,

Has anyone here actually gotten a printer to on a home network to reconnect in a functional way after going to sleep? About 3 Times out of 5, ours pretends not to hear devices, but shows up on the router and responds to pings. Only turning it and the router off and on gets it back online. Have assigned it its very own IP address and futzed with every other setting I can think of, short of keeping it awake. We are updating the router today, but I am not optimistic.

IP network printer or Bonjour? If you're not using, you might consider it. This has solved a host of problems for us. Apple even supports Bonjour on Windows. At my old company, it ran all the printers regardless of what OS they were running.

Thanks, Beau. I will try that next if the new router doesn’t fix it. There is a Mac desktop within reach.

Our new Canon wireless printer works just fine being woken up. No issues so far, after a couple of weeks of use.

Our several-years-old HP L7650 is left on 24/7 though the computer is turned off every night. We've had no consistent connectivity-type problems. (OTOH, the original HP software was awful. Later versions much better, but still mediocre.)

Edit: I was going to mention that the printer is local to the PC which is the "server" to the network rather than being a network printer. This may make more reliable for printing from the PC at the cost of making it complicated to print from my laptop when it's connected.

The fix I've usually had is to give it a static IP address from your router, but it sounds like you've already done that. Another trick if available in the printer settings is to assign a static IP for the printer on the printer and then on the router adjust the available IP addresses that the router assigns to start above that range.

Our office IP addresses occasionally cause issues with home networks as they were originally set up using the same format and if a user doesn't adjust the available range assigned by their router something on their home network will overlap with the network drives at the office and they can't see or access stuff correctly at home.

You might also investigate the power saving/sleep settings for the printer.

Since I went to wired rather than wireless network printers I've had no problems.

My new laptop doesn't even have an ethernet port. Irritating.

Ajax wrote:My new laptop doesn't even have an ethernet port. Irritating.

Luddite.

USB-Ether adapters are cheap.

I know, but it should have come with an ethernet port installed. I reluctantly agree with abolishing CD drives, but this is taking things pretty far. I guess they had to, to achieve the desired form factor but this laptop isn't as slim as many other 2-in-1's. I think they could have made it fit, the bastards.

I'm satisfied with my choice so far. The facial recognition login is very quick. Occasionally it takes a couple of seconds longer if I'm not wearing my glasses. I wonder if I should have created my facial login without my glasses on. Battery life is satisfactory, response time, wake-up time and generally "doing things" are all fast enough for my liking. Not a major fan of Win10 but that's not the hardware's fault.

Only an IT guy would miss an ethernet port on a laptop in almost 2018. Just another portal of entry for e-field loving ants.

New router seems to have fixed the AWOL printer problem.

While we are off-topic - I am adding a small wifi module to my AIS receiver. Can I coat the board in silicone (or something else) to weatherproof it?

TheOffice wrote:While we are off-topic - I am adding a small wifi module to my AIS receiver. Can I coat the board in silicone (or something else) to weatherproof it?

We used to be able to buy a conformal coating spray that would allow you to coat the entire board. Generally speaking, as long as you don’t coat connectors, it’s safe but it does provide an insulation layer that can cause the module/board to retain heat. Unless you are operating close to the margin already, that should not be enough to cause a problem.

Something like this. https://www.alliedelec.com/techspray-2104-12s/70207246/

Ajax wrote:I'm satisfied with my choice so far. The facial recognition login is very quick. Occasionally it takes a couple of seconds longer if I'm not wearing my glasses. I wonder if I should have created my facial login without my glasses on. Battery life is satisfactory, response time, wake-up time and generally "doing things" are all fast enough for my liking.

On the subject of bio-driven login, I have a Samsung tablet that's about 3 months old. It has a fingerprint reader, which works fine. However, it doesn't work when my hands have been wet, such as just after taking shower or doing some dishes.

Larry,

Ordered it from Mouser. Thanks! It was twice the price on Amazon.

SemiSalt wrote:

Ajax wrote:I'm satisfied with my choice so far. The facial recognition login is very quick. Occasionally it takes a couple of seconds longer if I'm not wearing my glasses. I wonder if I should have created my facial login without my glasses on. Battery life is satisfactory, response time, wake-up time and generally "doing things" are all fast enough for my liking.

On the subject of bio-driven login, I have a Samsung tablet that's about 3 months old. It has a fingerprint reader, which works fine. However, it doesn't work when my hands have been wet, such as just after taking shower or doing some dishes.

One of the better features of the Apple Watch is that it will log you into your Apple computer as you walk up to it. The watch either piggybacks on the facial/finger recognition from the iPhone it is linked to, or you can type in a number password. You only need to log into the watch once in the morning when you put it on. I probably use that feature of the watch at least a dozen times a day as I'm forever working on the computer for 5 min. then walking away (Auto log out is set for 30 seconds) and coming back 10 minutes later.

SemiSalt wrote:

Ajax wrote:I'm satisfied with my choice so far. The facial recognition login is very quick. Occasionally it takes a couple of seconds longer if I'm not wearing my glasses. I wonder if I should have created my facial login without my glasses on. Battery life is satisfactory, response time, wake-up time and generally "doing things" are all fast enough for my liking.

On the subject of bio-driven login, I have a Samsung tablet that's about 3 months old. It has a fingerprint reader, which works fine. However, it doesn't work when my hands have been wet, such as just after taking shower or doing some dishes.

Apple fingerprint reader is exactly the same. Makes sense that water would erase the grooves.

I think that the fingerprint readers are working on capacitance, which would be changed quite radically by water.

BeauV wrote:I think that the fingerprint readers are working on capacitance, which would be changed quite radically by water.

Big smear either way.

BeauV wrote:One of the better features of the Apple Watch is that it will log you into your Apple computer as you walk up to it. The watch either piggybacks on the facial/finger recognition from the iPhone it is linked to, or you can type in a number password. You only need to log into the watch once in the morning when you put it on. I probably use that feature of the watch at least a dozen times a day as I'm forever working on the computer for 5 min. then walking away (Auto log out is set for 30 seconds) and coming back 10 minutes later.

I've never put a password on a phone or tablet or computer. Very fast to get logged in that way.

kdh wrote:

BeauV wrote:One of the better features of the Apple Watch is that it will log you into your Apple computer as you walk up to it. The watch either piggybacks on the facial/finger recognition from the iPhone it is linked to, or you can type in a number password. You only need to log into the watch once in the morning when you put it on. I probably use that feature of the watch at least a dozen times a day as I'm forever working on the computer for 5 min. then walking away (Auto log out is set for 30 seconds) and coming back 10 minutes later.

I've never put a password on a phone or tablet or computer. Very fast to get logged in that way.

I have been working on a friend's laptop, trying to get it up to speed (literally...it's almost new and my ancient Vaio will run rings around it). My friend has different passwords for each computer, each password is about 10 random characters. Obviously, he can't remember his passwords so he keeps them written down in a book that travels with the computer.
Rebooting the stupid thing took forever by the time he made five or six wrong password entries. The only computer I password protect is the one that travels on the boat since it's the only one at risk of being stolen, and it's two characters long.

Ish: <facepalm>.

I think I've told this story, but I'll tell it again just in case:

Wife: Something is wrong with my computer, can you take a look at it?
Me: (Sitting down at her laptop, I am presented with the Windows password dialogue which has an icon you click on, to select the account you want to log in with.) "Sure, what's your password, or come over here and type it in."

Wife: "Just click on the kitty."

You folks running around with no passwords or easy passwords are just killing me. Do you do electronic banking on your laptops? Do you save the passwords in your browser cache? Credit card numbers? If you do, please lock down your machines.

1Password

Not 100% ideal, but much better than most systems

Jamie wrote:1Password

Not 100% ideal, but much better than most systems

Agree,

Ajax wrote:Ish: <facepalm>.

I think I've told this story, but I'll tell it again just in case:

Wife: Something is wrong with my computer, can you take a look at it?
Me: (Sitting down at her laptop, I am presented with the Windows password dialogue which has an icon you click on, to select the account you want to log in with.) "Sure, what's your password, or come over here and type it in."

Wife: "Just click on the kitty."

You folks running around with no passwords or easy passwords are just killing me. Do you do electronic banking on your laptops? Do you save the passwords in your browser cache? Credit card numbers? If you do, please lock down your machines.

The boat computer has mainly navigation stuff, but we can also access the internet with it. I wipe the cache and history and cookies regularly. CCleaner works well for that, also cleans up the registry.

Jamie wrote:1Password

Not 100% ideal, but much better than most systems

I had a job where I had to change my password every 45 days. jun1998, jul1998, sep1998, oct1998,......

Ajax wrote:Ish: <facepalm>.

I think I've told this story, but I'll tell it again just in case:

Wife: Something is wrong with my computer, can you take a look at it?
Me: (Sitting down at her laptop, I am presented with the Windows password dialogue which has an icon you click on, to select the account you want to log in with.) "Sure, what's your password, or come over here and type it in."

Wife: "Just click on the kitty."

You folks running around with no passwords or easy passwords are just killing me. Do you do electronic banking on your laptops? Do you save the passwords in your browser cache? Credit card numbers? If you do, please lock down your machines.

I’m with Ajax, unless your computer/phone/tab has nothing useful on it, or lives in a locked vault, it needs a password. Your files also need to be incrypted.