Conoravirus ...

[Olaf Hart]

Usual disclaimers re health advice, I am no longer a registered practitioner and am not indemnified.

Sounds like bruising or a local reaction, I would take it easy and let it settle, not much you can do about it except wait and watch.

If it’s a reaction, it’s usually sensitivity to egg white.

[LarryHoward]

With operations in 4 states, 3 of which have governors who are vying for the “I did more faster” award, it’s becoming a near full time job to sort out the federal and state shut downs and aid proposals (we are a small business). Problem for our HR and legal folks is to sort out what they all mean, how they apply and what records we need to keep. Basic plan is to extend the NY (our HQ) benefits to all employees and then deal with local differences locally.

[Slick470]

Usual disclaimers re health advice, I am no longer a registered practitioner and am not indemnified.

Sounds like bruising or a local reaction, I would take it easy and let it settle, not much you can do about it except wait and watch.

If it’s a reaction, it’s usually sensitivity to egg white.

Thanks Olaf. I understand and appreciate all the disclaimers. I don't have any known allergies (other than seasonal) so I doubt its an egg white thing. I was just talking to my wife about it and twisting motions tend to cause the most discomfort. Again it's not too bad, but seems odd that I'd still have anything this far out from the shot.

[Panope]

Steve,

Fingers crossed that you’re ok. There is still a lot of flu going around, let’s hope it’s that. I’m almost afraid to look at the various curves, CA hasn’t been doing well.

The Governor of CA just announced that there is a very low probability that kids will got back to school this year. I guess the Admiral and I will be in the day care business. Our granddaughters are bouncing around like water on a hot griddle too.

Thanks, Beau

The first 24 hrs of waiting for test results had me a bit anxious that I might be positive. However, now I almost hope that I (and my wife) are positive.

If we do have CV, we seem to be fighting it off fairly well - so we might end up with some immunity right when things get out of hand.

Also, If we are not able to fight it off, and we take a turn for the worse, now is the time to go to the hospital as it is not overflowing yet.

Today is my second day in a row that I feel "pretty darn good" (but not quite normal).

9 days since first symptoms.

Steve

[Slick470]

hope things continue to improve Steve. Keep us posted!

[Steele]

As hard as it is to deal with kids at home, people hording truck loads of toilet paper, and washing your hands every 10 mins, it is still worth it. Current local projections are that we will overrun our hospitals the first week of April. Seattle shut down a week too late. We fussed about school lunches and homeless people having internet access in libraries, and now we are in big trouble. Any state with a small number of cases that chooses to hold off on containment measures is delusional. Keep in mind we have NO case finding. The only people counted are already sick. Covid 19 is like that mouse you see in your basement, if you see one there is probably 10, or 30.

For now most things are fine, plenty of fesh food in the stores, emergency servics are fully operational, and no panic. The concern is our ability to properly care for the small portion of the population who will get severe illness. We may luck out. If we can slow the spread, immunity increases in the population as people recover, and this illness starts to burn out, we may dodge a bullet. For now all non essential healthcare is shut down, we are 100% focused on patients with respiratory symptoms or other acute illnesses.

Luckily most states seem to have learned from our delay, I assume every university and school district in the country is closed. All hospitals, nursing homes and care facilities should be blocking all visitors. I am less sure how much closing other gathering places will help. Restaurants, gyms etc. make sense. I could use a haircut, but will have to wait.

[Tigger]

Our daughter-in-law is an Optometrist. Her sources indicate that the numbers here are vastly underreported and that community transmission is widespread. She's no longer seeing patients unless it's an emergency, which would be something she could treat in the office and/or write a prescription for (antibiotic) rather than having someone visit ER.

I suspect the city is going to fully lock down tomorrow. Already all schools, restaurants and pubs are shut, as are many businesses (IKEA, Nordstrom and the like.) Downtown ... it's a ghost town.

[kimbottles]

Social Distancing Tool

[Tigger]

Thanks for the picture of the Agony Bag Kim!

[kimbottles]

Thanks for the picture of the Agony Bag Kim!

Proof that it works on some.....

[Ajax]

Guess this isn't the Boomer Flu after all. Increasing reports of the 20-40 cohort requiring hospitalization. Yeah, yeah "underlying conditions." I think the heavy vapers are especially fucked. What a stupid habit.

My kids have no "underlying conditions" but they're still working every day and I'm worried about them.

[LarryHoward]

Guess this isn't the Boomer Flu after all. Increasing reports of the 20-40 cohort requiring hospitalization. Yeah, yeah "underlying conditions." I think the heavy vapers are especially fucked. What a stupid habit.

My kids have no "underlying conditions" but they're still working every day and I'm worried about them.

I’m dealing with mild panic. All of the “office staff” are on telework. The techs are on max social separation (7 folks in a 15,000 sq ft facility) and I have about 2 weeks worth of telework training, document review, etc for when we have to shut down.

This morning, we were told that a customer engineer had tested positive, his coworkers had been sent into 2 weeks quarantine and some of those coworkers had been in contact with my folks. Naturally that went to the techs on site first. Truth turns out to be that the engineer showed symptoms and is being tested and his coworkers sent on telework awaiting results so my folks are 2 degrees of separation from a suspected case and don’t meet any criteria testing.

Basically trying to keep them safely on the job drawing pay until we can cover them with telework or the aid packages.

Hard choices every day.

[TheOffice]

I'm in the office mornings and then 'working' from home in the afternoon.

My wife has been told by Hopkins that they need to reuse face shields and N95 masks from patient to patient and day to day due to shortages. A/K/A we're fucked!

[Jamie]

It was totally impossible for us to see this coming, wasn't it.....

[kimbottles]

Guess this isn't the Boomer Flu after all. Increasing reports of the 20-40 cohort requiring hospitalization. Yeah, yeah "underlying conditions." I think the heavy vapers are especially fucked. What a stupid habit.

My kids have no "underlying conditions" but they're still working every day and I'm worried about them.

I’m dealing with mild panic. All of the “office staff” are on telework. The techs are on max social separation (7 folks in a 15,000 sq ft facility) and I have about 2 weeks worth of telework training, document review, etc for when we have to shut down.

This morning, we were told that a customer engineer had tested positive, his coworkers had been sent into 2 weeks quarantine and some of those coworkers had been in contact with my folks. Naturally that went to the techs on site first. Truth turns out to be that the engineer showed symptoms and is being tested and his coworkers sent on telework awaiting results so my folks are 2 degrees of separation from a suspected case and don’t meet any criteria testing.

Basically trying to keep them safely on the job drawing pay until we can cover them with telework or the aid packages.

Hard choices every day.

Damn!!

[Charlie]

Beau, our site visits could be limited to something like that, but we'd have to do them off hours to have the place to ourselves. By the time it makes sense for us to come on site, the project site is teeming with pretty much all of the construction trades but major excavation and earthwork. Much of our job is working with Architects and owners and while in person meetings helps that along, we've been moving more and more to teleconference type meetings.

My call earlier is an example of how not to do a call. It was on skype and it was set up using skype audio without a call in number and most of the attendees had issues getting their computers set up properly. We had one attendee who had video turned on on his phone and we spent most of the call with a video shot up his nose. It was pretty awful.

Andy,

My company, Librestream, has an industrial AR platform designed for field workers to bring remote experts into the field virtually. We’re heavily involved in aerospace, Oil&gas, and construction. We’re global, and most of our customers are Fortune 1000. We originally designed the platform for Boeing and Baker Hughes, so our security is top unmatched, and we can operate in challenge physical and connectivity environments, like offshore oil rigs.

With Covid-19 on the loose, we are offering our solution to new customers at no charge. Details on us, and the offer, here:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/charliefin ... 3d18834a25


Using Skype or FaceTime in the field is like trying to fix a jet engine with a stapler.

Charlie

[Slick470]

Charlie, that looks like a really cool product. Let me dig into it a bit. We are MEP consultants in the commercial construction world so the MEP and/or general contractors on site would be the ones who would also need to adopt this to make it work and across all of our projects we work with some number of different contracting companies. It's also hard to know if the job sites will be shut down soon or not either.

My project with the Skype issues and the desire for us to visit has some unique security challenges that involve a foreign government, so there is a pretty big chance something like this is a non-starter for that specific project, but it is definitely interesting to watch how technology is being implemented and adapted to help us do our jobs remotely.

I'm sort of our company IT guy in addition to being one of our senior electrical engineers (small company so we each wear many hats) and I'm working to roll out tools that we haven't used but have available to help increase communication in an office where we would occasionally have someone working from home where now probably 50% or so or more are working from home now. I expect that number to increase over the next week or so. Current project is MS Teams since we get it as part of our Office 365 suite.

[Charlie]

Charlie, that looks like a really cool product. Let me dig into it a bit. We are MEP consultants in the commercial construction world so the MEP and/or general contractors on site would be the ones who would also need to adopt this to make it work and across all of our projects we work with some number of different contracting companies. It's also hard to know if the job sites will be shut down soon or not either.

My project with the Skype issues and the desire for us to visit has some unique security challenges that involve a foreign government, so there is a pretty big chance something like this is a non-starter for that specific project, but it is definitely interesting to watch how technology is being implemented and adapted to help us do our jobs remotely.

I'm sort of our company IT guy in addition to being one of our senior electrical engineers (small company so we each wear many hats) and I'm working to roll out tools that we haven't used but have available to help increase communication in an office where we would occasionally have someone working from home where now probably 50% or so or more are working from home now. I expect that number to increase over the next week or so. Current project is MS Teams since we get it as part of our Office 365 suite.

Andy, we may have something that satisfies that foreign government issue. PM me if you want to speak in it.

Thanks,

Charlie

[Olaf Hart]

We are just four weeks away from knowing everyone’s true hair colour.....

[LarryHoward]

We are just four weeks away from knowing everyone’s true hair colour.....

Bride has a "desilvering" appointment Saturday. Small salon with a short customer list. She is really hoping it happens.

[Ajax]

We are just four weeks away from knowing everyone’s true hair colour.....

Lol!

[LarryHoward]

Hell of a day at work but we are pretty close to a Shelter in Place according to the emergency response folks we know. Took some time to grab all my tech toys from the office to set up for hard core telework rather than the ad box I’ve been doing. Tested my Skype for Business connection and got my home printer/scanner all configured on my work set up.

Looks like Lynne will move to telework sometime tomorrow to the extent that she can.

Then Chris joined us and we cooked up 3 filets and had a stay home anniversary dinner. Very nice. You have to celebrate when you can.

[Jamie]

Teams is atypical MS product. I’ll leave it at that. Webex is terrrible. Zoom is the best I’ve used. Slack is decent.

I find the Google suite / Google docs and Drive are the best, but we can’t use it in China. So it’s Sharepoint. Very average product.

[BeauV]

Hard choices every day.

^^^^ THIS

I do fear that the "Hard choices" are going to get harder. As someone with a sheepdog personality (protect the herd!) I hate this. I want all my sheep to be safe!

[Slick470]

Andy, we may have something that satisfies that foreign government issue. PM me if you want to speak in it.
Thanks,
Charlie

Charlie, I appreciate the offer, and I would take you up on it if this wasn't such a one-off. I'm being brought in as the senior EE on this project that is waiting on it's last trade to finish up after the original contractor walked off the job and left a mess. The person who would be working with your software on the site is the guy whose nose I spent an hour and half trying not to look up so I don't have a lot of optimism he'd be able to figure it out. They want us to come out and confirm a riser installation before it gets corrected. They can send me pictures for that.

[Slick470]

Teams is atypical MS product. I’ll leave it at that. Webex is terrrible. Zoom is the best I’ve used. Slack is decent.

I find the Google suite / Google docs and Drive are the best, but we can’t use it in China. So it’s Sharepoint. Very average product.

We've used most of them and a bunch more industry specific ones. We don't typically use any ourselves but follow along with whatever our clients use. Yes, some are better than others. Since we have Teams, we're going to try it as a chat box to start and then roll into calls, meetings and the like. If this lasts long enough to matter, we'll probably figure out something better. We mostly email or call each other on the phone now, but there is a lot of collaboration in the office that will be missed if we all work remotely.

[LarryHoward]

Hard choices every day.

^^^^ THIS

I do fear that the "Hard choices" are going to get harder. As someone with a sheepdog personality (protect the herd!) I hate this. I want all my sheep to be safe!

As John would understand, I’m a huge proponent of “troops eat first.” It kills me that my most vulnerable workers are going to suffer and I’m losing sleep trying to come up for a way to protect them and their families. We just don’t have the resources to carry them for very long.

[kdh]

Hang in there Larry. You can only do what you can do. I imagine everyone understands the situation.

[Chris Chesley]

Teams is atypical MS product. I’ll leave it at that. Webex is terrrible. Zoom is the best I’ve used. Slack is decent.

I find the Google suite / Google docs and Drive are the best, but we can’t use it in China. So it’s Sharepoint. Very average product.

Concur with Zoom being excellent. We use Slack internally but it does consume a lot of computer resources/bandwidth, especially once you go to video. When we want video internally, we use Zoom.

[Anomaly]

Hard choices every day.

It seemed like a "hard choice" at first, then it just seemed like a complete no-brainer: I flew to Rome yesterday on the night flight from JKF. No luggage to speak of, just my wife's iMac (that she had left in the US about a year ago because we weren't certain it could survive a flight) under my arm and a plastic bag with masks, wipes, and hand sanitizer. Alitalia required all passengers to wear masks and the flight was uneventful. A bit of miscommunication with the Italian passport control folks over which form I was to fill out saying I would stay at home. At first they directed me to fill out the form for Italians then accused me of falsely trying to claim residency, but eventually we got it sorted out and they let me through. After a three hour drive I'm now home and on lockdown with the French chick and the wonder dog:

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