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Postby kimbottles » Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:00 pm

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This ^^^^ is especially for you Kim!

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Postby Ajax » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:24 am

Holy shit, SA has created an entire Covid-19 sub-forum and it is FULL of angry trash. I'm steering clear of that place!
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Postby kimbottles » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:29 am

Well I am now on TOTAL isolation for the next 20 weeks. No human contact except Susan (who has her temperature tested twice a day And takes extreme measures when she goes out of the house) and my medical team who are also very careful around me. (See pictures below. The bottom picture is my Persian oncologist. He is also Susan’s breast cancer oncologist. I love this guy. He is an example why Immigration is GOOD! He is now an American citizen and a wonderful addition to our country.)

The DoseDense chemo is surging through my body hunting down those nasty little cancer cells that might have escaped Amy’s expert surgery. BUT it is also busy lowering my defenses.

The side effects are not much fun but mostly tolerable. The worst side effect? One of the three anti nausea drugs causes hiccups!! Lots of them!

I will shave my head this weekend as the next blast of chemo is suppose to attack my hair. I like to be proactive.

CSR has offered to deliver FRANCIS back home when they are finished with her, the project is slowed by the chemo treatment Jeff is getting. He is the only one working on her, but he is making progress. Jeff is my chemo buddy now, we share our progress via email weekly.

Weird situation I find myself in. But it could be worse. Cheers!
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Ajax » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:50 am

Jiminy Xmas, Kim. 20 weeks of total isolation. On an island. With hiccups.

Well, you can talk to us here. I know it's not the same as human contact. The nurse looks cute.

My mother had her first chemo on Tuesday. She seems to be tolerating it very well. I have stressed to my father that they need to isolate really hard. I hope they're taking it seriously because there's absolutely nothing I can do about it from here.
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Postby Jamie » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:58 am

Kim, can you still play with your radios? That's a great hobby for these troubled days.
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Postby kimbottles » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:54 am

Ajax wrote:Jiminy Xmas, Kim. 20 weeks of total isolation. On an island. With hiccups.

Well, you can talk to us here. I know it's not the same as human contact. The nurse looks cute.

My mother had her first chemo on Tuesday. She seems to be tolerating it very well. I have stressed to my father that they need to isolate really hard. I hope they're taking it seriously because there's absolutely nothing I can do about it from here.


I have never seen the face of Shannon, I am told she is very cute. Dr. M I have seen for six years now for Susan’s cancer. He and I have bonded over those six years so having him as my oncologist was a no brainer. Susan tells me he is very attractive, I am no judge of male attractiveness, but I believe her.

I did get a glance of the other chemo nurse Katie without her mask on my way out, she is cute for sure. I might get her as my nurse next time. I will try for a picture. The head chemo nurse Belia is a real sweetie, (another immigrant) I managed to get this shot before I became defenseless. But she stayed a long way away from me. No hugs.

I have to say I LOVE my Kaiser Permanente medical team. Super supportive, super competent, very nice, cheerful and up beat, very comfortable setting with a great Cascades Mountain View. Makes me almost look forward to chemo.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby kimbottles » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:04 am

Jamie wrote:Kim, can you still play with your radios? That's a great hobby for these troubled days.


The radios have been used more these last couple weeks than they were the last couple months.

I am using some of the chemo and isolation time to practice copying code in my head with no paper. I can put 20-25 wpm on paper. I am slowly getting better on the mill, I can do 15-18 wpm typed into the mill (I think it needs cleaning and a lub job, the keys need a big hit to work well.)

To get to good conversation speed 30-40 wpm take good head copy. (Or better mill work.)

There are iPad links to code practice and I wear earphones. Close your eyes and see the words flowing through.

Not all time is wasted in isolation.
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Postby Ajax » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:11 am

I think head copying is easier when you're copying actual words and sentences. In Navy code school, they were random, 5 character groupings so it was impossible to anticipate a "word."

Once you hear "a-s-s-h..." you know the rest of the word, sort of like Wheel of Fortune when enough of a word is exposed on the board.
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Postby Jamie » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:12 am

That's a lovely piece of yestertech.

Some of your radio gear looks like it came from a Gernsback continuum. Very cool.
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Postby Steele » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:39 am

Nobody can fault your attitude Kim. A good outlook and solid care team make all the difference. You have a more than a few friends in the community so if you need someone to come over and mow the yard or scare off an otter let us know.

We are seeing some trends that are hopefull. We have had a siginicant drop off in patients presenting with respiratory illness at both the acute care clinic and drive through testing. Hospital numbers are improving as well. They lag the outpatient trends by 7-10 days so we are hoping for a significant reduction in inpatient volumes this month. We can now test almost any of our patients with respiratory symptoms, not just the sickest or those with risk factors. Antibody testing is comming on line and although not available in the community it holds promise to help manage this crisis.

My big worry, like anyone in medicine, epidemiology, or science, is opening up too soon or haphazardly. The current count is around 500K confirmed cases of covid 19 in the US. We are testing just a fraction of infected citizens, we won't know the true numbers until antibody tesing is widespread. Even guessing a ration of 20:1, that is 10 million people we hope are now immune in a US population of 330 million. It is looking like there will not be meaninfull federal management of our recovery, so this will be a state by state process. We have a pretty good state health dept, or at least they seem to have learned from their early mistakes. The University has also been very good at crunching numbers and providing rapid reliable testing. I hope this bodes well for us overall.
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Postby Tigger » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:42 pm

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Postby kimbottles » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:58 pm

Jamie wrote:That's a lovely piece of yestertech.

Some of your radio gear looks like it came from a Gernsback continuum. Very cool.


I really need to sell some of this 50+ year collection!!
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Charlie » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:17 pm

Kim,

Take care of yourself. Wishing you as easy a time as possible.

What is that refrigerator-sized thing on wheels!?!

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Postby kimbottles » Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:10 pm

Charlie wrote:Kim,

Take care of yourself. Wishing you as easy a time as possible.

What is that refrigerator-sized thing on wheels!?!

Charlie


Nicknamed the Gold Dust Twins (because of their insane cost in the 1950’s) they were the ultimate 1950’s ham radio station (Collins 75A-4 receiver & KWS-1 transmitter) made by Art Collins’ company Collins Radio that built high end communications equipment for the Amateur, commercial and military markets.

Gen Curtis LeMay, a good friend of Collins, had some modified to be placed on SAC bombers. Some were made by Collins Canadian.
I don’t use it, I actually keep it in a closet. Modern radios like my Elecraft station perform Much better and are much easier to use, but something about the ultimate 1950’s station appeals to me. I got my first ham license in 1965.

(The sharp eyed ones of you might see the box in front of the KWS-1 power supply and know what they are.)
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Postby Ken Heaton (Salazar) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:19 am

kimbottles wrote:(The sharp eyed ones of you might see the box in front of the KWS-1 power supply and know what they are.)

Slide rules?
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Postby Olaf Hart » Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:01 am

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Postby Benno von Humpback » Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:58 am

More tentative good news on remdesivir. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/N ... oronavirus

It’s my personal favorite candidate, based on what I’ve heard from experts and insiders.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby SemiSalt » Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:00 am

Ships curves? Or French curves?
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby SemiSalt » Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:18 am

I've been thinking over the past 24 hours about what's next. What happens at the end of the current projections when new cases are driven down to where it's not too dangerous to go to the grocery store store? There will still be some cases; it is just impossible to imagine that there will be no cases in New York City any time soon, so how do we open up the economy while keeping the beast in the cage?

Thus far there have been two models. China and South Korea did contact tracing and isolation. I think that could work in the US somewhere new cases appear at the rate of one a day or less, but it's not going to work in NYC. But the only other model we have is the total isolation thing we're doing now.

Does anyone think tha a more relaxed regime of letting everyone go to work, but no crowds allowed would work? Is there political will to keep the restaurants and sports leagues closed while everyone else gets on with it?
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Postby Benno von Humpback » Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:21 am

SemiSalt wrote:I've been thinking over the past 24 hours about what's next. What happens at the end of the current projections when new cases are driven down to where it's not too dangerous to go to the grocery store store? There will still be some cases; it is just impossible to imagine that there will be no cases in New York City any time soon, so how do we open up the economy while keeping the beast in the cage?

Thus far there have been two models. China and South Korea did contact tracing and isolation. I think that could work in the US somewhere new cases appear at the rate of one a day or less, but it's not going to work in NYC. But the only other model we have is the total isolation thing we're doing now.

Does anyone think tha a more relaxed regime of letting everyone go to work, but no crowds allowed would work? Is there political will to keep the restaurants and sports leagues closed while everyone else gets on with it?

It is said that good judgment comes from experience and experience comes from bad judgment. I think we’ve already seen some of that played out and we are not done.
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Postby kdh » Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:26 am

Benno von Humpback wrote:More tentative good news on remdesivir. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/N ... oronavirus

It’s my personal favorite candidate, based on what I’ve heard from experts and insiders.

But has to be administered intravenously, no? So it wouldn't keep people out of hospitals?
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Postby Benno von Humpback » Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:58 am

kdh wrote:
Benno von Humpback wrote:More tentative good news on remdesivir. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/N ... oronavirus

It’s my personal favorite candidate, based on what I’ve heard from experts and insiders.

But has to be administered intravenously, no? So it wouldn't keep people out of hospitals?

Not necessarily. Home administration could be safer and more economical and it might also work orally, as several related antivirals do. However, the drug would be so scarce initially that it would be reserved for the sickest folks, anyway.
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Postby kimbottles » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:16 am

SemiSalt wrote:Ships curves? Or French curves?

Ding, Ding, Ding! We have a winner!!!

Salty for the win.

Ships curves some of which came from my time as a cadet at the California Maritime Academy back when I thought I would be going to sea as a ship’s engineer.

Then part way through I met a girl who seemed so much more interesting than a sea faring life and dropped out to run away with her. Well, must have been a good choice because she is still here with me (or am I with her?)

(Later went back to college and became a CPA, strange journey.)

(Sorry about the tread drift. Back to Covid-19 and the economy.)
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Chris Chesley » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:30 am

Someday. Someday, I will get my hands on a nice set of Ships Curves....

Kim, you have an amazing collection of really 'Good Things'.
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Postby Jamie » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:56 am

SemiSalt wrote:I've been thinking over the past 24 hours about what's next. What happens at the end of the current projections when new cases are driven down to where it's not too dangerous to go to the grocery store store? There will still be some cases; it is just impossible to imagine that there will be no cases in New York City any time soon, so how do we open up the economy while keeping the beast in the cage?

Thus far there have been two models. China and South Korea did contact tracing and isolation. I think that could work in the US somewhere new cases appear at the rate of one a day or less, but it's not going to work in NYC. But the only other model we have is the total isolation thing we're doing now.

Does anyone think tha a more relaxed regime of letting everyone go to work, but no crowds allowed would work? Is there political will to keep the restaurants and sports leagues closed while everyone else gets on with it?


I think China is a terrible example. We'll know several years from now what went really happened in WuHan and more and more their data looks like an outlier (eg bad data). Watch to see if victory was declared too early.

Instead look at Taiwan as a good example as they started tracing from flights returning from WuHan in late December and have a strong national healthcare system. Singapore, S Korea and HKG are also good examples. Of course, it's still a bit early to tell since we're not done.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby slap » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:37 am

Chris Chesley wrote:Someday. Someday, I will get my hands on a nice set of Ships Curves....

Kim, you have an amazing collection of really 'Good Things'.


When the drafting room at work (David Taylor Model Basin) closed down the retiring draftsmen were throwing out all sorts of unneeded stuff - who needs hand drawing tools when everything is now being done on computer? Since my office was in that area I was able to pick up "out of the trash" all sorts of neat stuff - a set of ships curves in a nice wood box, big slide rules, spline weights, etc.
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Postby SemiSalt » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:23 am

Jamie wrote:
SemiSalt wrote:I've been thinking over the past 24 hours about what's next. What happens at the end of the current projections when new cases are driven down to where it's not too dangerous to go to the grocery store store? There will still be some cases; it is just impossible to imagine that there will be no cases in New York City any time soon, so how do we open up the economy while keeping the beast in the cage?

Thus far there have been two models. China and South Korea did contact tracing and isolation. I think that could work in the US somewhere new cases appear at the rate of one a day or less, but it's not going to work in NYC. But the only other model we have is the total isolation thing we're doing now.

Does anyone think tha a more relaxed regime of letting everyone go to work, but no crowds allowed would work? Is there political will to keep the restaurants and sports leagues closed while everyone else gets on with it?


I think China is a terrible example. We'll know several years from now what went really happened in WuHan and more and more their data looks like an outlier (eg bad data). Watch to see if victory was declared too early.

Instead look at Taiwan as a good example as they started tracing from flights returning from WuHan in late December and have a strong national healthcare system. Singapore, S Korea and HKG are also good examples. Of course, it's still a bit early to tell since we're not done.


As of right now, I think declaring victory too early is the only policy option being considered in the US.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby kdh » Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:35 pm

SemiSalt wrote:As of right now, I think declaring victory too early is the only policy option being considered in the US.

Well, Trump seems likely to declare victory early. Fortunately, what he thinks doesn't matter all that much.
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Postby Olaf Hart » Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:47 pm

Now we know the real costs of ignoring public health risks, these examples show the gross negligence of several governments

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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Chris Chesley » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:31 pm

slap wrote:
Chris Chesley wrote:Someday. Someday, I will get my hands on a nice set of Ships Curves....

Kim, you have an amazing collection of really 'Good Things'.


When the drafting room at work (David Taylor Model Basin) closed down the retiring draftsmen were throwing out all sorts of unneeded stuff - who needs hand drawing tools when everything is now being done on computer? Since my office was in that area I was able to pick up "out of the trash" all sorts of neat stuff - a set of ships curves in a nice wood box, big slide rules, spline weights, etc.



So you're willing to part with them for a similar cost plus shipping...?
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