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BeauV wrote:While I'm sure that Tesla is having a lot of trouble, I also happen to know that they've increased Model 3 production massively in the last two months. A surprise to me was that almost no one wants the base model. It appears that most folks on the "list" would like a version that ends up costing about $45k. BTW, this is typical of the Model S also, where less than 15% buy the "base" model at about $80K. I believe the average selling price of a Model S is hovering around $125k.
If it turns out that the customers like he cars, which everyone I've ever talked to do.
If it turns out that they all migrate up into the higher priced models, which early indications are that they are.
Then, I think they've got a chance. We may be seeing the classic "Valley of Despair" which every new adopter product goes through. Could be a buying opportunity coming up with the stock.(I am a TERRIBLE stock picker.)
TheOffice wrote:
We weren't able to open up the doors.
TheOffice wrote:Pretty amazing that CR found a flaw in the Model 3 brakes and within a week a software update resolved it. No other car company can do that.
Saw a Model 3 at the Tesla store in Littleton Co. It was across the street from the high school graduation we attended, so Sue could not resist.
We weren't able to open up the doors, but she looked sleek (if you upgrade the wheels).
There's a new grill on the S. Looks better.
Orestes Munn wrote:TheOffice wrote:
We weren't able to open up the doors.
Just cycle the power, reboot, and see what happens.
LarryHoward wrote:Orestes Munn wrote:TheOffice wrote:
We weren't able to open up the doors.
Just cycle the power, reboot, and see what happens.
Friend of mine bought one of the first F Type Jags imported to the US. It has some electrical glitch that drained the battery several times. Like the Tesla recharging doo that requires battery power to open it, the Jag required power to open the trunk and access the battery compartment. Took the dealer 3 days to access the battery the first time it happened and it got towed in for the same problem something like 4 times before they fixed it and I think Jag had to invent a procedure to access the battery when there was no battery power.
Chris Chesley wrote:LarryHoward wrote:Orestes Munn wrote:TheOffice wrote:
We weren't able to open up the doors.
Just cycle the power, reboot, and see what happens.
Friend of mine bought one of the first F Type Jags imported to the US. It has some electrical glitch that drained the battery several times. Like the Tesla recharging doo that requires battery power to open it, the Jag required power to open the trunk and access the battery compartment. Took the dealer 3 days to access the battery the first time it happened and it got towed in for the same problem something like 4 times before they fixed it and I think Jag had to invent a procedure to access the battery when there was no battery power.
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JoeP wrote:Interesting problems had to be worked out for this "platooning" (as I have heard it called) concept Beau. Each platoon of x number of cars would be limited by the cornering, acceleration, and braking capabilities of the least competent car and platoons would be limited by the least competent platoon. I understand the self driving networking systems are close to being ready. Interesting stuff.
BeauV wrote:JoeP wrote:Interesting problems had to be worked out for this "platooning" (as I have heard it called) concept Beau. Each platoon of x number of cars would be limited by the cornering, acceleration, and braking capabilities of the least competent car and platoons would be limited by the least competent platoon. I understand the self driving networking systems are close to being ready. Interesting stuff.
Joe, you're absolutely right. The platoons are limited by the lowest performing member. Interestingly, the total through-put of the system, even accepting that they're all moving at the slowest member, is quite a bit higher than a "normal" highway. Imagine removing all the braking, accelerating, lane changing, etc... that goes on. Imagine being able to read or watch TV while in a platoon! Or, for that matter, canoodle with your sweetheart.
What shocked me was that by tripling the bandwidth (total number of vehicles) by packing them close together, the resulting improvement is amazing even if the the platoon only travels at 80% of the peak speed the folks achieve now days.
I always know WHAT is going to happen, I just don't know WHEN.
BeauV wrote:I always know WHAT is going to happen, I just don't know WHEN.
What I'm struggling with in my later years is trying to get better at the "WHEN" vs the "WHAT". Clearly platooned vehicles will happen because the massive benefits are obvious. But WHEN it will happen - to quote the King And I - "Is a puzzlement". It could happen while we're both alive, but then again, it might not.
BeauV wrote:I'd like to point out, however, that the ability to drive a car by looking out the front with a camera and LIDAR was considered "impossible" less than 10 years ago.
BeauV wrote:Very very soon, every car will either just carry the latest database of all the roads (including a lot of detail) or they'll have access to it via the network. This won't just be the local roads, it'll be every road.