Conoravirus ...

[Panope]

I just got off the phone with Kim. After catching up, I had to brag about a recent craigslist score: 33 pound Spade for $65 dollars. I even managed to get the seller to deliver it to me (about an hour away)!

These sell for $628 at West Marine.

Kim was jealous.

[kimbottles]

Damn right I am, I am a Scot, I want bargains where ever I can find them.

Ferry was very empty. Susan went up to walk and took this picture.

[SemiSalt]

Facebook post from my son:

Starting tomorrow my home will not only be an office during the day, it will be two offices and two schools, with a full service cafeteria.

They are in Santa Monica. He works for Google, his wife works for UCLA.

[kimbottles]

The tubes are history!
Thank goodness.
It was worth the pain of removal to get them GONE!

[Ajax]

That's great news, Kim.
Now sit tight and don't get sick.

[Chris Chesley]

The tubes are history!
Thank goodness.
It was worth the pain of removal to get them GONE!

I'm getting the vibe that the process wasn't any 'fun' at all. But glad to hear you're making progress!

[Charlie]

Kim,

Glad you’re running tubeless.

Charlie

[Tigger]

BC just put a stop to gatherings of more than 250 people. Here's local media coverage for those of you who want to compare press coverage.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6668957/bc-c ... -march-12/

[Tigger]

Provincial government also just asked retired Doctors to 're-register' in case the case load worsens.

[Olaf Hart]

Provincial government also just asked retired Doctors to 're-register' in case the case load worsens.

Hmmm, lots of liability and recertification issues there, as well as exposing more elderly people to the virus.

[H B]

Lotta old people here. I'm not sure if any of you are familiar with the Real Housewives/Smudge the Cat memes. If you are, you'll get the joke.

HAHAHAHAHA. My wife watches "The Real Housewives of.." well, basically "Anywhere", so I get the joke.

[kimbottles]

The tubes are history!
Thank goodness.
It was worth the pain of removal to get them GONE!

I'm getting the vibe that the process wasn't any 'fun' at all. But glad to hear you're making progress!

After Amy determined that the drains were slowing enough to be more of an infection risk than of any value, she called Page to come remove them.

Page is a no nonsense RN.
Page is built like a fullback.
Page recently rebuilt her Porsche’s engine.
Page was an auto mechanic before going back to nursing school.
Page takes no prisoners.
Page and I go way back, she has assisted Scott (my Mohs) surgeon on three of my skin cancer procedures.
Page says: “Kim, take several deep breaths.” Then with one monster pull the tube is out of your body.
Page had warned me that it was not going to be pleasant, but she does not tell you which breath is the pull one.
Page says it is better that way.
It feels a bit like someone just took a blow torch to your armpit. (But it calms down after a few minutes.)
Page is impressed I didn’t pass out, (she says that is often the reaction from some patients.)
The second tube was somewhat anti-climactic. For some reason it was not nearly as painful as the first one. Maybe I was already numb?
I can’t explain why, but I am quite fond of Page.

[Steele]

I am glad the tubes are out, and you are doing so well.

As an aside, with a little work you last post would make a good country western song.

[Tigger]

I am glad the tubes are out, and you are doing so well.

As an aside, with a little work you last post would make a good country western song.

Working title would be the "Blakely Harbor Tube Step"!

[BeauV]

I am glad the tubes are out, and you are doing so well.

As an aside, with a little work you last post would make a good country western song.

He needs to add in some stuff about his Mom, a Pickup Truck, a Train, some Rain.... there's a song like that someplace....

Kim, I'm glad you're tubeless and healthy. I'm also very jealous of Steve's anchor snag. Geeesh, that would make a perfect little stern anchor for MAYAN.

[BeauV]

OK, back to more serious questions for the group:

1) There is a lot of talk about a vaccine, but we've had the Common-Cold forever, some Colds are coronaviruses. If we can't develop a vaccine for the Common-Cold, why do folks think we can develop one for this particular coronavirus??

2) Could someone guide me to some credible data on the lifespan of this coronavirus on surfaces like doorknobs, countertops, chairs, etc... I find lots of second-hand stuff supposedly out of China but can't find anything rigorous. The Admiral wants to know how rigorously we need to wipe down or if we can leave the bugs to die from O2 or UV exposure.

BTW, there has been a run on high proof vodka at our local BevMo store.

[Ajax]

From what I've read, cold and flu viruses mutate much more frequently in order to proliferate.
CoVID-19 is very successful at proliferating itself so its rate of mutation is hopefully much slower. If the virus remains the same or nearly the same for longer periods of time, the ability to develop a vaccine has a higher probability of success.

I'm sure Steele or Olaf will correct me where I'm wrong.

[Anomaly]

So most of you think a little ditty about the BDSM thing Page and Kim got goin would make a great C&W song eh? I guess I'm just gettin old.

[Olaf Hart]

These are the current medical guidelines here in Oz, the only comment on time is to not enter a contaminated room for thirty minutes.

http://cec.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/ass ... 9-nCoV.pdf

I suspect droplets may be infectious for longer, but most viruses are surprisingly fragile and die rapidly if they are not inside a living cell, so thirty minutes in an extra cellular space may be adequate.

[Olaf Hart]

So most of you think a little ditty about the BDSM thing Page and Kim got goin would make a great C&W song eh? I guess I'm just gettin old.

There is no dog....

[Charlie]

OK, back to more serious questions for the group:

1) There is a lot of talk about a vaccine, but we've had the Common-Cold forever, some Colds are coronaviruses. If we can't develop a vaccine for the Common-Cold, why do folks think we can develop one for this particular coronavirus??

2) Could someone guide me to some credible data on the lifespan of this coronavirus on surfaces like doorknobs, countertops, chairs, etc... I find lots of second-hand stuff supposedly out of China but can't find anything rigorous. The Admiral wants to know how rigorously we need to wipe down or if we can leave the bugs to die from O2 or UV exposure.

BTW, there has been a run on high proof vodka at our local BevMo store.

Just heard reference on NPR to this study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... l.pdf+html

[BeauV]

OH and Charlie - Thank you!! Perfect reads.

[SemiSalt]

OK, back to more serious questions for the group:

1) There is a lot of talk about a vaccine, but we've had the Common-Cold forever, some Colds are coronaviruses. If we can't develop a vaccine for the Common-Cold, why do folks think we can develop one for this particular coronavirus??

2) Could someone guide me to some credible data on the lifespan of this coronavirus on surfaces like doorknobs, countertops, chairs, etc... I find lots of second-hand stuff supposedly out of China but can't find anything rigorous. The Admiral wants to know how rigorously we need to wipe down or if we can leave the bugs to die from O2 or UV exposure.

BTW, there has been a run on high proof vodka at our local BevMo store.

I've seen suggestions, some confident, some not, that the virus can survive about 10 hours on an exposed surface.

[Jamie]

Back when I was making vaccines in a past life, the top earner was the annual flue vaccine which would be updated each year to cover all the new strains but generally it was 9-12 months behind the curve.

Most vaccines require eggs for mfg and are very hard to ramp in the case of epidemic. We had a cell mfg process that was very easy to ramp once established.

[Ken Heaton (Salazar)]

OK, back to more serious questions for the group:

1) There is a lot of talk about a vaccine, but we've had the Common-Cold forever, some Colds are coronaviruses. If we can't develop a vaccine for the Common-Cold, why do folks think we can develop one for this particular coronavirus??

2) Could someone guide me to some credible data on the lifespan of this coronavirus on surfaces like doorknobs, countertops, chairs, etc... I find lots of second-hand stuff supposedly out of China but can't find anything rigorous. The Admiral wants to know how rigorously we need to wipe down or if we can leave the bugs to die from O2 or UV exposure.

BTW, there has been a run on high proof vodka at our local BevMo store.

This is a quote from the WHO Q&A on coronaviruses (COVID-19) 9 March 2020 from here: https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detai ... onaviruses

How long does the virus survive on surfaces?
It is not certain how long the virus that causes COVID-19 survives on surfaces, but it seems to behave like other coronaviruses. Studies suggest that coronaviruses (including preliminary information on the COVID-19 virus) may persist on surfaces for a few hours or up to several days. This may vary under different conditions (e.g. type of surface, temperature or humidity of the environment).

If you think a surface may be infected, clean it with simple disinfectant to kill the virus and protect yourself and others. Clean your hands with an alcohol-based hand rub or wash them with soap and water. Avoid touching your eyes, mouth, or nose.

[JoeP]

I have been working from home for the last week (well except for one day) and will for at least another week per company orders. Vessel crews have their own protocols to follow. It's nice to work for a concerned and mostly proactive company. Meetings are all on line and we use Microsoft Teams to chat amongst ourselves.

My wife stays home most days and goes into the office on a rotating basis so that someone from her department is there every day.

My daughter will be working from home at least next week and perhaps longer. Her dog is now our home office manager.

My 96 year old stepmother lives in a very nice well run facility which has sharply curtailed visiting hours and the number of people who can visit at any one time. Visits must occur in the person's apartment to isolate most contact with other s.
Hopefully they can keep the virus at bay. (UPDATE) The home has shut down all outside contact except in severe sickness or end of life situations.

The dog thinks it is great that everyone can be home under her watchful eye.

[blackjenner]

The tubes are history!
Thank goodness.
It was worth the pain of removal to get them GONE!

Good news!

[blackjenner]

I'm currently working my way through this.

Fwd:
Here’s an important and very well written article on the epidemiology of the coronavirus as we know it today. The urgent take-home message being the importance of early intervention, social distancing, and to not travel.

I urge you to read the entire article, especially the Twitter threads from the medical staff in Italy

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavi ... d3d9cd99ca

[Slick470]

Thanks for posting that article Donn. Very sobering.

Most of our clients have moved to telework. We have an office designed for 50 people but are currently at about 25 employees so it is easy for us to spread out when in the office. We also have the ability to telework for the most part and with our schools closed at least until April 10th, I have a feeling I'll be home for most of that. Sarah works for the govt, and her agency has told everyone who can telework, should. There are a few travel related cases locally, but there are not any known community spread cases... yet.

So, with pretty much all gatherings being cancelled, schools closed, and many companies moving to telework. I'm hoping that this area does an ok job of flattening the curve. As our son learned in daycare a few weeks ago when they were upping cleaning and hygiene protocols "these are dangerous times"

[H B]

I am very lucky..I work from home 3-4 out of 5 days a week already. It will be 5 of 5 until the dumb millennials in my office remember what soap is.