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Who loiks boiks?

Postby Orestes Munn » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:27 am

I do.

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The cobwebs on the truck dash are beyond cool.
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby BeauV » Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:59 am

I really LOVE the bit about form not needing to follow function! Of course, an anachronistic old bastard like me with my wooden car, bike and boat probably would.

This guy pretty well sums up the reason I don't like modern architecture (especially Bauhaus). Minimalism may be fine in computer programs, but it often represents the elimination of all the beautiful bits in the name of function. It's a bit like a joke told by a person with no sense of humor. The funny bit is missing, and the teller doesn't even realize it.

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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby bob perry » Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:47 pm

I hear you Beau. Somestimes less is just less and a convenient excuse for lack luster design.
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby Soñadora » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:43 pm

I like building bikes.

I should probably stop.
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby kdh » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:00 pm

BeauV wrote:This guy pretty well sums up the reason I don't like modern architecture (especially Bauhaus). Minimalism may be fine in computer programs, but it often represents the elimination of all the beautiful bits in the name of function.

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Beau, how about a wood, mid-century modern, finished bright!

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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby BeauV » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:15 pm

Keith, that's not half bad. I enjoy more ornamentation that that, but I'm ok with anything that requires varnish bought in 5-gallon buckets!!

This is more my style:

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Then there is this:

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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby kdh » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:44 pm

Beau, it wouldn't surprise me if that stuff were yours.

Here's some form follows function on Quill. I especially dig the chainplate.

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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby Cherie320 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:13 pm

BeauV wrote:-- snip --Image


A fellow I used to work with told me that when he was a kid, their family car was a woodie. Each spring, the car got a coat of varnish and then the boat got a coat. It as all part of their annual commissioning process.

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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby BeauV » Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:06 pm

kdh wrote:Beau, it wouldn't surprise me if that stuff were yours.

Here's some form follows function on Quill. I especially dig the chainplate.

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Keith,

I've been shopping for a Real Woodie for years, but have yet to pull the trigger. The house in Switzerland is a place I stayed once a decade ago or so. It's a rental/hotel sort of place. The view from that ledge was EPIC!

Now, to the chainplate. If we lived in Victorian England there would be decorations on the chainplate sort of like this door lock from England:

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Or if we lived in the Edwardian era a door bell surround might look like this:

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Then in the Art Deco period it would look like this:

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I fear that our current sense of decoration has ended up as the elimination of all decoration. Now, we have beautifully built clean designs, like your chainplate, but (for me) it lacks any imprint of decoration that the pieces creator might have added in an earlier era.
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby kdh » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:20 pm

I see and appreciate your point, Beau.

At least on that deco plate the screw slots are aligned in the same direction, and vertically so dust won't collect in them.
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby BeauV » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:26 pm

kdh wrote:I see and appreciate your point, Beau.

At least on that deco plate the screw slots are aligned in the same direction, and vertically so dust won't collect in them.


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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby derekb » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:47 pm

Reminds me of From Bauhaus to our House - Tom Wolfe's book about the joke of proletariat worker's housing foisted on the wealthy.
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby Tigger » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:59 pm

BeauV wrote:I really LOVE the bit about form not needing to follow function! Of course, an anachronistic old bastard like me with my wooden car, bike and boat probably would.

This guy pretty well sums up the reason I don't like modern architecture (especially Bauhaus). Minimalism may be fine in computer programs, but it often represents the elimination of all the beautiful bits in the name of function. It's a bit like a joke told by a person with no sense of humor. The funny bit is missing, and the teller doesn't even realize it.

Off on a ride on my wooden bike this afternoon - see ya!


To each his own I guess--wouldn't trade mine for the world. Sure is nice to live in one!

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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby cap10ed » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:41 am

BeauV wrote:
kdh wrote:I see and appreciate your point, Beau.

At least on that deco plate the screw slots are aligned in the same direction, and vertically so dust won't collect in them.


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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby SloopJonB » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:36 am

It doesn't work very well with wood or sheet metal type screws since they need to turn until they are tight. It DOES look good with machine screws - it's one of those almost invisible things that create a perception of quality. It gets into your mind without really registering consciously in most cases.

It really shows up on holey rail if the heads are aligned. 4 hole cleats as well.

Just one of those little bits of care and pride that separates workmanship from craftsmanship.
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby JoeP » Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:33 pm

SloopJonB wrote:It doesn't work very well with wood or sheet metal type screws since they need to turn until they are tight. It DOES look good with machine screws - it's one of those almost invisible things that create a perception of quality. It gets into your mind without really registering consciously in most cases.

It really shows up on holey rail if the heads are aligned. 4 hole cleats as well.

Just one of those little bits of care and pride that separates workmanship from craftsmanship.


True. In tightening up screw heads to align you may overtighten them, and in the case of wood screws may cause some tear out of the thread in the wood. Sure it may be less than a quarter turn for a Phillips or Robertson but if the join is critical better to leave them be. Of course these days you can set your driver to disengage at a low torque setting and then tighten by hand until just right.
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby SloopJonB » Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:09 pm

It should be moot anyway in the case of wood screws - you shouldn't be able to see them under the grain matched plugs. ;)
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby floating dutchman » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:48 am

Back to bikes,

Wah who! New toy:

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Not anything special other than it's my new toy (and got war office funding approval!) It's not a commuter POS it's more like the bottom of the range for the proper mountain bikes.
My old mountain bike was on its way to dead, I bought it 18 years ago 2nd hand and the things it needed to bring it up to scratch was well above what the bike was worth, and I'd have a frame the was a little small and centre pull breaks and all that other 20 yo stuff.
The technology of bikes in the last 16 or so years ( since I last paid any real attention) is amazing! I've gone from the centre pull breaks to hydraulic disks, 21 speed to 27, although, extra gears but they seem to work very much the same and 29" wheels, or 700C just like my 20 year old road bike (new?)
The riding position, with the seat at about the same height as the bars will take some getting used too, I'm used to the seat being much higher, I'm going to trust what the manufactures build for a while but I just can't help but think that those bar's are going to move down. Bigger wheels on a MTB feel odd to, I'll get used to it.
My old bike, the bike shop gave me $50 for it, they are going to hang it on the wall as a step of evolution for bikes, Fine end for a good old bike (LX group set).
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby Olaf Hart » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:41 am

GT X frame, already a classic.
My wife has an alloy one from the nineties, still going 100%.
I have an old steel Giant, we had both of them out on the weekend riding on Bruny Island.
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby Orestes Munn » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:06 am

Well, here's the commuter/trainer, which I bought in about 1992 and seems to be the only thing I'm riding these days. It's mainly LX. My training program is to let the tires get softer and softer.

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I also have a cheapo SSFW and beautiful Ca. 1985 custom road frame with a CycleArt paint job and Nuovo Record group and ancient sew-ups. I haven't ridden it for years.
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby Rob McAlpine » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:27 am

So, what is the best in folding bikes? The bride likes riding, a lot of the places we sail have bike rentals, but some do not. I think we can clear enough space in the sail locker or quarter berth for a pair for me and the bride.

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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby Orestes Munn » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:05 pm

Rob McAlpine wrote:So, what is the best in folding bikes?

No idea. I don't even own a RIB.
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Re: Who loiks boiks?

Postby Olaf Hart » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:38 pm

Rob McAlpine wrote:So, what is the best in folding bikes? The bride likes riding, a lot of the places we sail have bike rentals, but some do not. I think we can clear enough space in the sail locker or quarter berth for a pair for me and the bride.

Had a nice ride through the National Seashore trail at Provincetown last week.


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