Conoravirus ...

[Ajax]

Just skimming the headlines... I didn't bother reading it or giving it any real weight.

[Jamie]

A news moratorium is key to surviving imprisonment.

[LarryHoward]

I can't watch CNN or Fox or any of the cable channel propaganda organs. Why cable and broadcast networks think it's important to politicize so much of this and sew more division and distrust during this time is beyond my comprehension.

The only thing I can stomach is C-SPAN, which is pretty neutral. Watching an hour on South Dakota's response now. Fascinating! (and very attractive Governor, too)

You could ask her about their anti drug campaign.

Meth-campaign-Screen-Shot-2019-11-19-at-5.36.14-AM.jpg

[Ajax]

A news moratorium is key to surviving imprisonment.

Sort of.

This isn't like "campaign season" where you've already decided who you're going to vote for so you can turn off the TV and ignore it all.

Laws in my state evolve literally on a day-to-day basis. Where I can go, what I can do, where and when I have to wear a mask. Health protocols issued from the CDC and other organizations keep evolving.
If I don't want to be hassled by the police or irate private citizens and if I want to avoid getting sick, a certain amount of news consumption is required. It is distasteful.

[Ajax]

I can't watch CNN or Fox or any of the cable channel propaganda organs. Why cable and broadcast networks think it's important to politicize so much of this and sew more division and distrust during this time is beyond my comprehension.

The only thing I can stomach is C-SPAN, which is pretty neutral. Watching an hour on South Dakota's response now. Fascinating! (and very attractive Governor, too)

You could ask her about their anti drug campaign.

Meth-campaign-Screen-Shot-2019-11-19-at-5.36.14-AM.jpg

She's a tall drink of water. I like Whitmer's curves better but I'll bet I couldn't stand her personally. I'd probably get on with Mrs. Noem better on a personal level.

In that one sentence, I'm sure I just failed every Progressive purity test ever issued.

[slap]

I can't watch CNN or Fox or any of the cable channel propaganda organs. Why cable and broadcast networks think it's important to politicize so much of this and sew more division and distrust during this time is beyond my comprehension.

The only thing I can stomach is C-SPAN, which is pretty neutral. Watching an hour on South Dakota's response now. Fascinating! (and very attractive Governor, too)

You could ask her about their anti drug campaign.

Meth-campaign-Screen-Shot-2019-11-19-at-5.36.14-AM.jpg

She's a tall drink of water. I like Whitmer's curves better but I'll bet I couldn't stand her personally. I'd probably get on with Mrs. Noem better on a personal level.

In that one sentence, I'm sure I just failed every Progressive purity test ever issued.

Sooooooo.... Where do you stand on Biden's choice for VP?

[LarryHoward]

I can't watch CNN or Fox or any of the cable channel propaganda organs. Why cable and broadcast networks think it's important to politicize so much of this and sew more division and distrust during this time is beyond my comprehension.

The only thing I can stomach is C-SPAN, which is pretty neutral. Watching an hour on South Dakota's response now. Fascinating! (and very attractive Governor, too)

You could ask her about their anti drug campaign.

Meth-campaign-Screen-Shot-2019-11-19-at-5.36.14-AM.jpg

She's a tall drink of water. I like Whitmer's curves better but I'll bet I couldn't stand her personally. I'd probably get on with Mrs. Noem better on a personal level.

In that one sentence, I'm sure I just failed every Progressive purity test ever issued.

Sooooooo.... Where do you stand on Biden's choice for VP?

I'm hoping for someone firing on all cylinders. With this race, the VP being a "heartbeat away" has never been more true. But, we survived Reagan's advancing debility.

[Ajax]

I can't watch CNN or Fox or any of the cable channel propaganda organs. Why cable and broadcast networks think it's important to politicize so much of this and sew more division and distrust during this time is beyond my comprehension.

The only thing I can stomach is C-SPAN, which is pretty neutral. Watching an hour on South Dakota's response now. Fascinating! (and very attractive Governor, too)

You could ask her about their anti drug campaign.

Meth-campaign-Screen-Shot-2019-11-19-at-5.36.14-AM.jpg

She's a tall drink of water. I like Whitmer's curves better but I'll bet I couldn't stand her personally. I'd probably get on with Mrs. Noem better on a personal level.

In that one sentence, I'm sure I just failed every Progressive purity test ever issued.

Sooooooo.... Where do you stand on Biden's choice for VP?

I've seen a list of people he's considering but have not heard that he's settled on anyone in particular yet. I have opinions about the potential people on his list but I'm not going to air them here.

[kdh]

I can't watch CNN or Fox or any of the cable channel propaganda organs. Why cable and broadcast networks think it's important to politicize so much of this and sew more division and distrust during this time is beyond my comprehension.

The only thing I can stomach is C-SPAN, which is pretty neutral. Watching an hour on South Dakota's response now. Fascinating! (and very attractive Governor, too)

You could ask her about their anti drug campaign.

Meth-campaign-Screen-Shot-2019-11-19-at-5.36.14-AM.jpg

She's a tall drink of water. I like Whitmer's curves better but I'll bet I couldn't stand her personally. I'd probably get on with Mrs. Noem better on a personal level.

In that one sentence, I'm sure I just failed every Progressive purity test ever issued.

Obama famously publicly called Kamala Harris the "best looking attorney general in the country." So you're in good company.

[Tigger]

Richard Reid (Zingara) is a very successful sailor in the 36.7 world. I've never met him but he was very helpful responding to questions about the boat. Here is the harrowing tale of his Covid ordeal in an article published by the Toronto Star.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/0 ... ilTy31VMEY

[Ajax]

Well. That was a terrifying article.

[Tim Ford]

Richard Reid (Zingara) is a very successful sailor in the 36.7 world. I've never met him but he was very helpful responding to questions about the boat. Here is the harrowing tale of his Covid ordeal in an article published by the Toronto Star.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/0 ... ilTy31VMEY

Wow. Thanks for the link, Tigger. I was going to make a run to get beer, but I think I'll put that on hold.

For like 6 months....

[Tigger]

Indeed frightening. We know so little about it.

[LarryHoward]

Richard Reid (Zingara) is a very successful sailor in the 36.7 world. I've never met him but he was very helpful responding to questions about the boat. Here is the harrowing tale of his Covid ordeal in an article published by the Toronto Star.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/0 ... ilTy31VMEY

Wow. Thanks for the link, Tigger. I was going to make a run to get beer, but I think I'll put that on hold.

For like 6 months....

Wow,

Great memories of racing Zingara at 36.7 events. Always a top competitor and pleasant crew.

[Jamie]

A news moratorium is key to surviving imprisonment.

Sort of.

This isn't like "campaign season" where you've already decided who you're going to vote for so you can turn off the TV and ignore it all.

Laws in my state evolve literally on a day-to-day basis. Where I can go, what I can do, where and when I have to wear a mask. Health protocols issued from the CDC and other organizations keep evolving.
If I don't want to be hassled by the police or irate private citizens and if I want to avoid getting sick, a certain amount of news consumption is required. It is distasteful.

True. I live in Floriduh so it's anything goes. WWE is "essential". That's the news.

I'm in a high-risk category, as is my wife, so we were BSL3 from day one. Other than a walk, I don't go anywhere other than to the store every other week.

[Benno von Humpback]

So, long-suffering spouse’s practice is drifting toward financial rocks because of COVID. She’s the main manager of financial stuff, so she spends days researching and applying for a PPP loan. This p.m., she gets an email that the loan is approved. She is overjoyed, opens the email on her iPad and goes to sign the acceptance document, clicks a random arrow button and somehow declines the loan. Of course, no help is available. Tomorrow she’ll go to the bank and plead her case in person. .

[Steele]

There is some interesting data coming from the navy. They are testing the entire 4800 member crew of the aircraft carrier infected with covid 19. They claim they are 94% of the way to completion of that task, with 600 positive results. Of those 60% are asymptomatic. This is like testing everyone in a small town, admittedly with young probably mostly healthy inhabitants. Some will become ill, but so far only one death. This may explain how this thing took off so fast, gobs of infected younger folks in the community spreading the virus without any knowledge of having been carriers.

[LarryHoward]

So, long-suffering spouse’s practice is drifting toward financial rocks because of COVID. She’s the main manager of financial stuff, so she spends days researching and applying for a PPP loan. This p.m., she gets an email that the loan is approved. She is overjoyed, opens the email on her iPad and goes to sign the acceptance document, clicks a random arrow button and somehow declines the loan. Of course, no help is available. Tomorrow she’ll go to the bank and plead her case in person. .

Ouch. Wishing her the best in sorting it quickly and painlessly.

[Olaf Hart]

https://www.facebook.com/1710671834/pos ... 899741608/

[Ajax]

Oh, drat. I'm sorry to hear that.

[Ajax]

There is some interesting data coming from the navy. They are testing the entire 4800 member crew of the aircraft carrier infected with covid 19. They claim they are 94% of the way to completion of that task, with 600 positive results. Of those 60% are asymptomatic. This is like testing everyone in a small town, admittedly with young probably mostly healthy inhabitants. Some will become ill, but so far only one death. This may explain how this thing took off so fast, gobs of infected younger folks in the community spreading the virus without any knowledge of having been carriers.

I realize that 5,000 is a small sample size relative to the US population but if this is reflective of reality at all, the general population is far more infected than we realize...and we're just spreadin' it around.

[SemiSalt]

There is some interesting data coming from the navy. They are testing the entire 4800 member crew of the aircraft carrier infected with covid 19. They claim they are 94% of the way to completion of that task, with 600 positive results. Of those 60% are asymptomatic. This is like testing everyone in a small town, admittedly with young probably mostly healthy inhabitants. Some will become ill, but so far only one death. This may explain how this thing took off so fast, gobs of infected younger folks in the community spreading the virus without any knowledge of having been carriers.

I realize that 5,000 is a small sample size relative to the US population but if this is reflective of reality at all, the general population is far more infected than we realize...and we're just spreadin' it around.

A NYC hospital obstetrics dept started testing all woman coming in to give birth. One in 8 tested positive. Not a random sample of all New Yorkers, but pretty random sample of young families
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[Tim Ford]

Benno, best of luck with that! Reminds me of having to fill out various FAFSA and college grant forms on-line. Being so A.D.D., I'd always click some stupid button sending the process back to Square One or into cyber-oblivion. Luckily there were not 10,000 other folks in panic mode trying to get tech support simultaneously back then.

With regard to the "younger folks" conversation above, our younger kid got furloughed and is going BSC alone in her studio apartment.

We've offered her the option of moving home with us, suburbia, backyard, access to trails, bikes, etc. But we are really quite worried about how long she'd need to quarantine and we have to navigate the matrix of her external contacts with her boyfriend, her college roommate and her trips out to get food and wine.

My wife says 15 days due to my own particular vulnerabilities (much like Richard Reid, mentioned above - asthma, prior bouts with pneumonia as a young adult, and years of summer jobs exposure to asbestos).

I'm not sure the kid can endure, psychologically and emotionally, another 8 days of being alone. She is extremely distraught.

So there's that.

[kimbottles]

https://www.facebook.com/1710671834/posts/10207413899741608/

Brilliant! And a cool voice too!

[Ajax]

Benno, best of luck with that! Reminds me of having to fill out various FAFSA and college grant forms on-line. Being so A.D.D., I'd always click some stupid button sending the process back to Square One or into cyber-oblivion. Luckily there were not 10,000 other folks in panic mode trying to get tech support simultaneously back then.

With regard to the "younger folks" conversation above, our younger kid got furloughed and is going BSC alone in her studio apartment.

We've offered her the option of moving home with us, suburbia, backyard, access to trails, bikes, etc. But we are really quite worried about how long she'd need to quarantine and we have to navigate the matrix of her external contacts with her boyfriend, her college roommate and her trips out to get food and wine.

My wife says 15 days due to my own particular vulnerabilities (much like Richard Reid, mentioned above - asthma, prior bouts with pneumonia as a young adult, and years of summer jobs exposure to asbestos).

I'm not sure the kid can endure, psychologically and emotionally, another 8 days of being alone. She is extremely distraught.

So there's that.

If there's a light at the end of that 8 days, she may be able to deal with it.

I've told my own kids that it's too late to interact with them. We've both been exposed to too many people to know if we're carrying.
I've told them that they can come to the house and we can all go down to the beach with 10 feet of separation. I've told them that we can outfit them with PFDs and spare kayaks and we can go paddling. I can sanitize the kayaks and PFDs once they are done with them.

Unfortunately, it's still too damn cold to go paddling. 35F this morning. We were wearing shorts last week.

[Chris Chesley]

Benno, best of luck with that! Reminds me of having to fill out various FAFSA and college grant forms on-line. Being so A.D.D., I'd always click some stupid button sending the process back to Square One or into cyber-oblivion. Luckily there were not 10,000 other folks in panic mode trying to get tech support simultaneously back then.

With regard to the "younger folks" conversation above, our younger kid got furloughed and is going BSC alone in her studio apartment.

We've offered her the option of moving home with us, suburbia, backyard, access to trails, bikes, etc. But we are really quite worried about how long she'd need to quarantine and we have to navigate the matrix of her external contacts with her boyfriend, her college roommate and her trips out to get food and wine.

My wife says 15 days due to my own particular vulnerabilities (much like Richard Reid, mentioned above - asthma, prior bouts with pneumonia as a young adult, and years of summer jobs exposure to asbestos).

I'm not sure the kid can endure, psychologically and emotionally, another 8 days of being alone. She is extremely distraught.

So there's that.

Tim, sorry to hear this. No parent wants to watch/hear their kids go through something like this. It's hard enough to endure the uncertainty, but doing so while alone is a huge amplifier of the distress. I've been grateful to have had something to keep me occupied (packing, moving and unpacking) and someone alongside me to share it with.

[Tim Ford]

Thanks fellows, we'll muddle through all this. Chris, I don't think packing and moving would help much to keep me sane , and I admire your intestinal fortitude in pulling off a move during these times!

Just got the word from my financial peeps about the Remdesivir results...a dim potential light shining off in the distance down there in the tunnel?

[Benno von Humpback]

Benno, best of luck with that! Reminds me of having to fill out various FAFSA and college grant forms on-line. Being so A.D.D., I'd always click some stupid button sending the process back to Square One or into cyber-oblivion. Luckily there were not 10,000 other folks in panic mode trying to get tech support simultaneously back then.

With regard to the "younger folks" conversation above, our younger kid got furloughed and is going BSC alone in her studio apartment.

We've offered her the option of moving home with us, suburbia, backyard, access to trails, bikes, etc. But we are really quite worried about how long she'd need to quarantine and we have to navigate the matrix of her external contacts with her boyfriend, her college roommate and her trips out to get food and wine.

My wife says 15 days due to my own particular vulnerabilities (much like Richard Reid, mentioned above - asthma, prior bouts with pneumonia as a young adult, and years of summer jobs exposure to asbestos).

I'm not sure the kid can endure, psychologically and emotionally, another 8 days of being alone. She is extremely distraught.

So there's that.

Oh, man. So awful for the poor girl and what a conflict for you guys. This pandemic a cruel thing. Please give my best to M.

Janell is on the phone right with the loan people right now. Fingers crossed.

If I had to bet on drug it would be remdesivir, but antibodies will probably be the first effective treatment.

[kimbottles]

“Janell is on the phone right with the loan people right now. Fingers crossed.”

My fingers are crossed for her too!

[Benno von Humpback]

“Janell is on the phone right with the loan people right now. Fingers crossed.”

My fingers are crossed for her too!

Thanks, brother. Been putting in a lot of miles on the road and thinking of you.