Conoravirus ...

[Jamie]

This stuff reminds me of living in China. Everything’s political or a political statement. The only difference is that everything is disorganized or doesn’t work.

Welp, like wile e coyote going over a cliff, reality soon brings ideology to ground. The question is what’s the cost of the landing? We seem determined to maximize it. I worry for us.

[Ajax]

There is a rundown of the early results from doctors using hydroxychloroquine treatment HERE (sorry if it's behind a paywall)

The short summary agrees with Eric's comments - there's no evidence of anything other than a possible placebo effect.

This is probably the reason that doctors have just moved on to other treatments while avoiding all the political backlash they'd have to deal with if they actually said that this does not really freaking work.

Insanely, whether you like remdesivir or hydroxychloroquine has become some kind of ridiculous political litmus test.

I see how that happened. It's terrible. Geeze, I'll support what the science says is effective. I hoped that political polarization would be a casualty of the virus, but it was not to be.

[Tim Ford]

Being further exacerbated by the "Open Up Now" protests. People are strange.

[Jamie]

Since DeSantis opened the beaches the drop in social distancing has dropped noticeably.

At Costco still a surprisingly large number of people taking no precautions at all.

[BeauV]

There is a rundown of the early results from doctors using hydroxychloroquine treatment HERE (sorry if it's behind a paywall)

The short summary agrees with Eric's comments - there's no evidence of anything other than a possible placebo effect.

This is probably the reason that doctors have just moved on to other treatments while avoiding all the political backlash they'd have to deal with if they actually said that this does not really freaking work.

Insanely, whether you like remdesivir or hydroxychloroquine has become some kind of ridiculous political litmus test.

One post which is directly related to Coronavirus, but is political in nature: The administration is blatantly politicizing this issue in an attempt to distract from their abject failure to respond well to the pandemic. From 2018 onward the team chartered with dealing with this exact issue was laid off, fired, and ignored. This "litmus test" issue is an obvious and disgusting red herring.

[Benno von Humpback]

Being further exacerbated by the "Open Up Now" protests. People are strange.

Those show signs of astroturfing, e.g., all the domains of the various “Liberate [state]” web sites were registered to the same entity in FL.

[Benno von Humpback]

Since DeSantis opened the beaches the drop in social distancing has dropped noticeably.

At Costco still a surprisingly large number of people taking no precautions at all.

The experiment is being run. Let’s see what happens...

[kimbottles]

Since DeSantis opened the beaches the drop in social distancing has dropped noticeably.

At Costco still a surprisingly large number of people taking no precautions at all.

The experiment is being run. Let’s see what happens...

Exactly!!

[Tim Ford]

There is a rundown of the early results from doctors using hydroxychloroquine treatment HERE (sorry if it's behind a paywall)

The short summary agrees with Eric's comments - there's no evidence of anything other than a possible placebo effect.

This is probably the reason that doctors have just moved on to other treatments while avoiding all the political backlash they'd have to deal with if they actually said that this does not really freaking work.

Insanely, whether you like remdesivir or hydroxychloroquine has become some kind of ridiculous political litmus test.

One post which is directly related to Coronavirus, but is political in nature: The administration is blatantly politicizing this issue in an attempt to distract from their abject failure to respond well to the pandemic. From 2018 onward the team chartered with dealing with this exact issue was laid off, fired, and ignored. This "litmus test" issue is an obvious and disgusting red herring.

Oh god, it's much worse than that, Beau. Everyone knows Trump had the Koch brothers engineer the virus in a secret lab in the IICR, and then Jared Kushner took it in a diplo-pouch to Yunnan Province (with Kellyanne Conway of course) and crawled into the bat caves and injected the little fuckers with full knowledge of the impending pandemic!!! IT'S ALL TRUMP"S FAULT!

I mean, like, everyone knows this, right?

[Olaf Hart]

There is a rundown of the early results from doctors using hydroxychloroquine treatment HERE (sorry if it's behind a paywall)

The short summary agrees with Eric's comments - there's no evidence of anything other than a possible placebo effect.

This is probably the reason that doctors have just moved on to other treatments while avoiding all the political backlash they'd have to deal with if they actually said that this does not really freaking work.

Insanely, whether you like remdesivir or hydroxychloroquine has become some kind of ridiculous political litmus test.

One post which is directly related to Coronavirus, but is political in nature: The administration is blatantly politicizing this issue in an attempt to distract from their abject failure to respond well to the pandemic. From 2018 onward the team chartered with dealing with this exact issue was laid off, fired, and ignored. This "litmus test" issue is an obvious and disgusting red herring.

Oh god, it's much worse than that, Beau. Everyone knows Trump had the Koch brothers engineer the virus in a secret lab in the IICR, and then Jared Kushner took it in a diplo-pouch to Yunnan Province (with Kellyanne Conway of course) and crawled into the bat caves and injected the little fuckers with full knowledge of the impending pandemic!!! IT'S ALL TRUMP"S FAULT!

I mean, like, everyone knows this, right?

Giuliani is behind this.

The whole world is going batshit crazy!

[LarryHoward]

There is a rundown of the early results from doctors using hydroxychloroquine treatment HERE (sorry if it's behind a paywall)

The short summary agrees with Eric's comments - there's no evidence of anything other than a possible placebo effect.

This is probably the reason that doctors have just moved on to other treatments while avoiding all the political backlash they'd have to deal with if they actually said that this does not really freaking work.

Insanely, whether you like remdesivir or hydroxychloroquine has become some kind of ridiculous political litmus test.

One post which is directly related to Coronavirus, but is political in nature: The administration is blatantly politicizing this issue in an attempt to distract from their abject failure to respond well to the pandemic. From 2018 onward the team chartered with dealing with this exact issue was laid off, fired, and ignored. This "litmus test" issue is an obvious and disgusting red herring.

Oh god, it's much worse than that, Beau. Everyone knows Trump had the Koch brothers engineer the virus in a secret lab in the IICR, and then Jared Kushner took it in a diplo-pouch to Yunnan Province (with Kellyanne Conway of course) and crawled into the bat caves and injected the little fuckers with full knowledge of the impending pandemic!!! IT'S ALL TRUMP"S FAULT!

I mean, like, everyone knows this, right?

Giuliani is behind this.

The whole world is going batshit crazy!

But how did they suck in DeBlasio (come out to the shows, go to the restaurants) and Pelosi (come down to Chinatown and enjoy yourselves). Masterful deep state operation.

[BeauV]

There is a rundown of the early results from doctors using hydroxychloroquine treatment HERE (sorry if it's behind a paywall)

The short summary agrees with Eric's comments - there's no evidence of anything other than a possible placebo effect.

This is probably the reason that doctors have just moved on to other treatments while avoiding all the political backlash they'd have to deal with if they actually said that this does not really freaking work.

Insanely, whether you like remdesivir or hydroxychloroquine has become some kind of ridiculous political litmus test.

One post which is directly related to Coronavirus, but is political in nature: The administration is blatantly politicizing this issue in an attempt to distract from their abject failure to respond well to the pandemic. From 2018 onward the team chartered with dealing with this exact issue was laid off, fired, and ignored. This "litmus test" issue is an obvious and disgusting red herring.

Oh god, it's much worse than that, Beau. Everyone knows Trump had the Koch brothers engineer the virus in a secret lab in the IICR, and then Jared Kushner took it in a diplo-pouch to Yunnan Province (with Kellyanne Conway of course) and crawled into the bat caves and injected the little fuckers with full knowledge of the impending pandemic!!! IT'S ALL TRUMP"S FAULT!

I mean, like, everyone knows this, right?

I do love satire, but this guy will get a LOT of people killed.

[Ajax]

Let's talk personal ethics for a moment-

Do you guys feel that solo boating (or boating with members of the same household such as husband and wife) unfairly puts 1st reponders at risk of infection in the event that you need rescue?
Is there some other reason that I'm not considering that makes solo boating an unacceptable risk during this medical event?

[kdh]

Let's talk personal ethics for a moment-

Do you guys feel that solo boating (or boating with members of the same household such as husband and wife) unfairly puts 1st reponders at risk of infection in the event that you need rescue?
Is there some other reason that I'm not considering that makes solo boating an unacceptable risk during this medical event?

Rhode Island and Mass for now allow recreational boating, and I plan to do so, thinking only of whom I'll be exposing and exposing myself to. I won't be going ashore.

[Ajax]

I'm just doing some introspection, trying to assess how much of a selfish asshole I'm being for thinking about going sailing.

There's a lot of people protesting to lift shelter at home orders and I was wondering if I'm accidentally falling in with the stupid crowd.

[Jamie]

It’s a lot less selfish than that guy who goes to the grocery store with no protective gear and touches all the fruit.

You’re a responsible boater. You’ve taken precautions to ensure you can self rescue for most things.

[Ajax]

My wife and I had a scary realization this weekend.

There are 2 inhabited island chains on the Chesapeake that are accessible only by water. They are both poor and isolated, inhabited by watermen and their wives. The populations are overwhelmingly older and only a few hundred people. One, infected visitor could wipe these places out. One infection could eliminate an entire sub-culture that has endured here since the US east coast was colonized. We have friends there.

We won't be visiting until there's a vaccine or at least really good anti-virals. That makes me sad.

[slap]

Rich is a responsible boater. But for him (and the rest of us) to be able to go out sailing the restrictions would have to be lifted for all boaters. And some of them aren't that responsible.

[Ajax]

Rich is a responsible boater. But for him (and the rest of us) to be able to go out sailing the restrictions would have to be lifted for all boaters. And some of them aren't that responsible.

Yeah, but I'm thinking of going anyway. That makes me irresponsible.

[slap]

Rich is a responsible boater. But for him (and the rest of us) to be able to go out sailing the restrictions would have to be lifted for all boaters. And some of them aren't that responsible.

Yeah, but I'm thinking of going anyway. That makes me irresponsible.

I'm married, but I notice hot women. Does that make me irresponsible?

[Jamie]

That's called managed risk.

[Ajax]

That's called managed risk.

Brilliant.

[Benno von Humpback]

Rich is a responsible boater. But for him (and the rest of us) to be able to go out sailing the restrictions would have to be lifted for all boaters. And some of them aren't that responsible.

Yeah, but I'm thinking of going anyway. That makes me irresponsible.

I think you tend to see things in absolute terms, but that's morality, not ethics. We are all irresponsible to a degree and some of us have real needs whose fulfillment occasionally impinges on the lives, rights, and desires of others. Accept that maybe it's a somewhat jerky thing to do, examine why you want to do it, and then do it or don't. We'll still love you.

[Ajax]

It's true that I have fewer shades of gray in my life. I'm not very good at nuance.

At some point, I'm going to hit "fuck it" and go sailing. Maybe I'll get away with it, maybe I'll incur a citation. Maybe my boat will be impounded and I'll be in front of the magistrate.

[Tigger]

I heard a good one this morning. We are not going to protect ourselves with 'herd immunity', we're going to protect ourselves with 'herd community'.

[slap]

It's true that I have fewer shades of gray in my life. I'm not very good at nuance.

At some point, I'm going to hit "fuck it" and go sailing. Maybe I'll get away with it, maybe I'll incur a citation. Maybe my boat will be impounded and I'll be in front of the magistrate.

If you absolutely, positively have to go sailing, just use your dingy and sail around the Rhode River area - you big boat on the Chesapeake with sails up is visible for miles.

[Ajax]

It's true that I have fewer shades of gray in my life. I'm not very good at nuance.

At some point, I'm going to hit "fuck it" and go sailing. Maybe I'll get away with it, maybe I'll incur a citation. Maybe my boat will be impounded and I'll be in front of the magistrate.

If you absolutely, positively have to go sailing, just use your dingy and sail around the Rhode River area - you big boat on the Chesapeake with sails up is visible for miles.

Fortunately(?) the forecast for the week is cold or shitty or, cold-and-shitty. Somebody left the thermostat stuck on "March."

[Benno von Humpback]

It's true that I have fewer shades of gray in my life. I'm not very good at nuance.

At some point, I'm going to hit "fuck it" and go sailing. Maybe I'll get away with it, maybe I'll incur a citation. Maybe my boat will be impounded and I'll be in front of the magistrate.

We'll be here to discuss, shake our heads, roll our eyes, and laugh at your expense if necessary. I mean, what are friends for?

[Ajax]

But will you be here to post my bail? That's the true mark of friendship.

[kimbottles]

But will you be here to post my bail? That's the true mark of friendship.

If I could do it remotely I will post your bail Ajax. I would miss your posts.