Conoravirus ...

[BeauV]

Steve, I’d really like to talk to Kit. I have a few questions which he is the guy with the answers.

I do know we have his centerboard still in the boat. I wasn’t sure of the wood, but will know a lot more soon. We’re about to strip and fair it, mostly to put a rounded leading edge on the thing. It’s currently square

More importantly, I’m trying to figure out some bits about the rigging and David said Kit did it. I also have some stained glass that I think he made and may wish to have back.

Anyway, if he has a phone or email, I’d love to contact him.

Kit is happy to chat, Beau.

I'll text his contact info.

Steve

Steve, thank you for setting this up! I'm really looking forward to getting more info on this period of MAYAN's life. David spent many years away from MAYAN, in prison, on the road, in studios, and guys like Kit kept her afloat and alive for decades. Eventually, as I think I've said, David did step up and completely rebuild her hull and deck.

When Wayne stripped all the wire rigging to inspect the spliced loops and wire, he found everything shiny bright; I'm guessing that the rigging is still the job done by Kit, but now I get to find out.

[Panope]

Happy to help, Beau

Kit always has the best stories. Please share with us Scantlingers, any of this past history.

Steve

[BeauV]

Happy to help, Beau

Kit always has the best stories. Please share with us Scantlingers, any of this past history.

Steve

I most certainly will. You know me: No story is too long.

[Olaf Hart]

He just said he asked to slow down the testing to manage the publicity!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-21/ ... g/12377556

What happened to the checks and balances?

[SemiSalt]

What's going on in California?

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[Jamie]

What's going on in California?

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School got out two weeks ago? Wait until two weeks after the protests started....that should be exciting!

[BeauV]

What's going on in California?

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Semi, there are a number of things:
1) We're testing more, a lot more. But that's only about 1/4 of what you're seeing.
2) We are now in the harvest season for a massive percentage of the vegetables which feed the US. Like the meatpacking operations in the northern mid-west, CA vegetable and fruit-packing is a) Indoors, b) shoulder to shoulder, c) loud so workers have to shout, d) cold to keep the veg and fruit fresh (which keeps the virus alive also), and e) populated by migrant workers who can NOT take a day off as they have zero financial reserves and if they don't show up they will be replaced. You can see the case count swell and then die back as the migrant farmworkers move steadily north with the harvest. A month ago the outbreak was due east of San Diego, then it was in the southern central valley, now it's in the middle of the central valley and in the Salinas valley, in another month or two it'll be in the northern end of the central valley. It's migrating wth the farmworkers.
3) We had a BUNCH of knuckleheads who went out to party for spring break, protests, and memorial day - those are now in the mix too. My Son-in-Law found out today that one of the guys in his office has COVID-19, he caught it because he and a bunch of his buddies went to Lake Havasu in Arizona for the typical legendary Spring Break party. Half of that group caught it. My son-in-law is not sleeping in the garage, kids little kids are deeply upset and worried about their daddy. He will get a COVID-19 test tomorrow so that my daughter will let him back in the house.
4) We have a BIGGER BUNCH of knuckleheads in S. California who thinks that wearing a mask is a sign of cowardice. They SUPPORT TRUMP, as it says in massive letters on their truck (complete with confederate flag). They really don't get it.

All of this is coming together to cause a massive increase in the right-wing and farming areas of the state. For the most part, those two areas overlap.

[SemiSalt]

Thx, Beau.

Even here in lil old Connecticut, there was a geographic rollout, Fairfield County to New Haven to Hartford. We had some hard-hit nursing homes, but I don't think we have much in the way of what you describe with the food chain. And we have a high proportion of people who could work from home.

[Tigger]

There are people here a ways up the medical food chain--if anyone is interested, here is the latest technical briefing from the Ministry of Health (too big to post as an attachment).

https://news.gov.bc.ca/files/2020-06-23 ... iefing.pdf

We're headed to Stage 3, where non-essential travel is no longer restricted. Hotels etc can now open. The Coles Notes version is this: if personal interactions are below 70% of normal, the disease continues to proliferate but not at exponential rates. We seem to have between 10 and 20 new cases per day in a province with a population of just over 5 million. We're at 65% of normal, which seems awfully close to be opening things up ...

I'm off on the boat soon. It's a bit of a double edged sword--you can socially isolate at anchor as well as anywhere, but a sailboat is the last place you want to get sick ...

[Ajax]

What's going on in California?

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Semi, there are a number of things:
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4) We have a BIGGER BUNCH of knuckleheads in S. California who thinks that wearing a mask is a sign of cowardice. They SUPPORT TRUMP, as it says in massive letters on their truck (complete with confederate flag). They really don't get it.

All of this is coming together to cause a massive increase in the right-wing and farming areas of the state. For the most part, those two areas overlap.

So like, 6 people then? I thought you guys put people in jail who vote Republican?

[BeauV]

Thx, Beau.

Even here in lil old Connecticut, there was a geographic rollout, Fairfield County to New Haven to Hartford. We had some hard-hit nursing homes, but I don't think we have much in the way of what you describe with the food chain. And we have a high proportion of people who could work from home.

Semi,

I feel insanely lucky that my lovely Admiral and I are retired. We have two out of four kids who can work from home. We worry about the other two.

I don't think folks across the country realize what it is taking for a large number of underpaid migrant and local workers to keep our food-chain working. The meatpackers in Wisconsin and the lettuce packers in Watsonville are running about a 50% risk of catching this disease (My estimate on the number based on various sources). So we safe folks get sausages and burgers; Iceberg, kale, and spinach.

[BeauV]

What's going on in California?

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Semi, there are a number of things:
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4) We have a BIGGER BUNCH of knuckleheads in S. California who thinks that wearing a mask is a sign of cowardice. They SUPPORT TRUMP, as it says in massive letters on their truck (complete with confederate flag). They really don't get it.

All of this is coming together to cause a massive increase in the right-wing and farming areas of the state. For the most part, those two areas overlap.

So like, 6 people then? I thought you guys put people in jail who vote Republican?

Only if they vote that way twice.

31.62% of the State is in this misguided category. Source

[Ajax]

Thx, Beau.

Even here in lil old Connecticut, there was a geographic rollout, Fairfield County to New Haven to Hartford. We had some hard-hit nursing homes, but I don't think we have much in the way of what you describe with the food chain. And we have a high proportion of people who could work from home.

Semi,

I feel insanely lucky that my lovely Admiral and I are retired. We have two out of four kids who can work from home. We worry about the other two.

I don't think folks across the country realize what it is taking for a large number of underpaid migrant and local workers to keep our food-chain working. The meatpackers in Wisconsin and the lettuce packers in Watsonville are running about a 50% risk of catching this disease (My estimate on the number based on various sources). So we safe folks get sausages and burgers; Iceberg, kale, and spinach.

I am unhappy with the level of effort that food packers have put into preventing transmission between their workers. The images I've seen are a joke. Where the hell is OSHA?

Most of the food we've eaten since March was grown in our yard or a local farm 10 minutes away or caught in the river.
Oddly, the one big thing I buy from the commissary is cheese. The local farms just don't sell it. They sell eggs, butter and milk.

The lettuce is bolting but tastes just fine. It's just not producing any more leaves. When we eat it all, that's it.
First zucchini was harvested this morning. Tomatoes have made an appearance. One apple tree has fruit...not sure how that's going to turn out.
The carrots might make it. I hope the peppers do, too.

[Benno von Humpback]

Where the hell is OSHA?

I don't think an executive agency in this administration or a Red State health department is going to take on powerful economic interests on behalf of brown immigrants, calling attention to the severity of the pandemic and endangering the bacon supply in the process.

As Larry Kudlow said today, we're just going to have to live with it.

[Jamie]

Where the hell is OSHA?

I don't think an executive agency in this administration or a Red State health department is going to take on powerful economic interests on behalf of brown immigrants, calling attention to the severity of the pandemic and endangering the bacon supply in the process.

As Larry Kudlow said today, we're just going to have to live with it.

Most of us get to live with it. Not all.

Some rednecks at the WPB DMV gave my wife a hassle. Apparently the local gubment is "Communist" for requiring masks - and "My body, my choice".

[LarryHoward]

Where the hell is OSHA?

I don't think an executive agency in this administration or a Red State health department is going to take on powerful economic interests on behalf of brown immigrants, calling attention to the severity of the pandemic and endangering the bacon supply in the process.

As Larry Kudlow said today, we're just going to have to live with it.

Most of us get to live with it. Not all.

Some rednecks at the WPB DMV gave my wife a hassle. Apparently the local gubment is "Communist" for requiring masks - and "My body, my choice".

I was talking to my daughter a few minutes ago. I guess masks are again required in PBC. As a state employee, she was notified to continue telework until further notice.

[Olaf Hart]

I like the suggestion that mask avoiders tell their surgeon the next time they have an operation to forget about the masks, gloves and hand washing as they are just a socialist plot...

[JoeP]

Governor Inslee reinstated mandatory mask requirements yesterday unless in an area where 6ft of separation is easy or your yard or eating etc. Just as Beau has said about California I can see cases in Eastern Washington, where all the grape and fruit orchards are, picking up.

[Jamie]

Where the hell is OSHA?

I don't think an executive agency in this administration or a Red State health department is going to take on powerful economic interests on behalf of brown immigrants, calling attention to the severity of the pandemic and endangering the bacon supply in the process.

As Larry Kudlow said today, we're just going to have to live with it.

Most of us get to live with it. Not all.

Some rednecks at the WPB DMV gave my wife a hassle. Apparently the local gubment is "Communist" for requiring masks - and "My body, my choice".

I was talking to my daughter a few minutes ago. I guess masks are again required in PBC. As a state employee, she was notified to continue telework until further notice.

I've been told the PB development board is "freaking out".

[BeauV]

Jame, what is "PB"?


I just bought one of these after reading about contracting COVID via one's eyes. I've been using a partial face respirator since the start of this and wearing glasses. My buddies at UCSF strongly suggested a face shield for at-risk folks or near people who are too asinine to wear a mask. These are wonderfully comfortable and this one will come in hand at our next haul out. Much more comfortable than the N95 masks and far more effective than the various coth and paper masks.

It'll be helpful when I have to hit the protest lines and battle the Man. Just like back in '69, baby.

[Ajax]

PB- Palm Beach
WPB- West Palm Beach
WPB DMV- West Palm Beach Dept. of Motor Vehicles

Try to keep up, Beau.

[SemiSalt]

Jame, what is "PB"?


I just bought one of these after reading about contracting COVID via one's eyes. I've been using a partial face respirator since the start of this and wearing glasses. My buddies at UCSF strongly suggested a face shield for at-risk folks or near people who are too asinine to wear a mask. These are wonderfully comfortable and this one will come in hand at our next haul out. Much more comfortable than the N95 masks and far more effective than the various coth and paper masks.

It'll be helpful when I have to hit the protest lines and battle the Man. Just like back in '69, baby.

What exactly is that face mask/shield, aside being the starting point for a Darth Vader costume?

[Slick470]

Semi, it's a 3M full face respirator. You connect cartridge filters to those circular nubs at the bottom. They are helpful for sanding particulate. I wear a nose and mouth covering but similar version when I'm sanding or cutting nasty stuff. Much more comfortable than an N95. A full face would be even more comfortable, but yeah, you look pretty nefarious with one on.

[Olaf Hart]

Does it come with a snorkel?

[BeauV]

Does it come with a snorkel?

Actually, you can get a hose attachment and connect an air supply to the place the filters go. When I was painting with LP, I used that. the hose runs around each side of your neck, merges with a bigger hose, and then runs off to someplace nowhere near your work so that the isocyanides out-gassing from the LP won't get to you. (Filters aren't very effective on many chemicals, you need a clean air supply)

I built an oversized blower and had a third pip pressurizing my bunny suit. Tape the arm and leg holes tight around you, blow the cold air into your lower back, and the only air that comes out of the bunny suit is around the neck. Keeps you nice and cool.

That rig used to really get some stares at the boatyard!

For shopping at the grocery store, I'll just use P-100 cartridges on the round nubs. Here's a Honeywell unit with the filters attached.

[Olaf Hart]

I have a question about the stock market, does anyone know if the algorithms for automatic trading anticipated disasters, like this pandemic, and if so how did they account for them?

[Tim Ford]

Just curious, who among us is relatively back to normal, waking up every morning, putting on the tie and jacket or T-shirt and flippy floppies and driving off to work? (or bicycling to work, or walking to work, whatevah).

I am not. But then, I wasn't anyway.

[kdh]

I have a question about the stock market, does anyone know if the algorithms for automatic trading anticipated disasters, like this pandemic, and if so how did they account for them?

My 2c. Algorithms, and artificial intelligence, learn by example, just as we do. They use the past as a guide to the future. My experience has been that to some extent there's always something unique about any market environment that foils algorithms as a result.

Having written that, it's fairly common for algorithms that step in to provide liquidity--the other side of a trade, to back off when there's a lot of volatility, uncertainty, in stock prices. This is when liquidity is most needed, of course, but the idea is not to provide a public service but to make profitable trades. Trading algorithms have replaced dealers and "specialists" that carried out the same function at much higher cost and generally not as well, in my opinion.

There's good evidence this time around that algorithms stepped away from the uncertainty in the markets. Also, the market rally can be associated with traders covering speculative short positions while laying off leverage/risk, so is not a rally associated with an appetite for risk but the opposite.

[LarryHoward]

Just curious, who among us is relatively back to normal, waking up every morning, putting on the tie and jacket or T-shirt and flippy floppies and driving off to work? (or bicycling to work, or walking to work, whatevah).

I am not. But then, I wasn't anyway.

I reopened our office 2 weeks ago. We are "essential" and bringing on new employees so it was time to get back to "normal." Watching local data carefully, requiring masks outside of personal spaces. May do alternate telework for some if things start back up. Just took the keys to a new production facility this morning so moving things in and setting things up. Capital equipment starts to deliver this week. Second building with warehouse, kit build up and offices scheduled for occupancy in mid August. I'm bleeding cash setting up. Not unexpected, but painful.

[Jamie]

My son is working an internship at an "essential" company. They went up to Portland for orientation, got tested and did some training. On the last day someone is the office tested positive, so the last day was virtual. The plant/facility visits also got cancelled due to Corona outbreaks. Then he went back to Davis and got tested again. Today is the first day in the Sacramento office. Let's see how long that lasts. The costs of operating like this must be staggering.

I on the other hand am non-essential, so I'm in slippers, Brooks Brothers undershirts and boxers unless I have a video conference. I go to the office once a week, timed so that others aren't around, and do some office only work and pick up more lab supplies (masks, gloves). I started shaving with a straight razor to learn a new skill. So far I've not accidentally decapitated myself. So I've got that going for me; which is good.