Conoravirus ...

[Ajax]

COVID testing has vanished from Florida. Completely overwhelmed.

EDIT: I'm wondering if everyone wants to get tested so they can attend July 4th celebrations?

Holy shit. That's not good.

I was notified by my daughters that my son-in-law who just returned from a lengthy military deployment last week, was laid up with fever for 3 days this week.
He tested positive for a strain of strep throat. He was tested for COVID but they don't have the results yet.

My daughters are not showing any symptoms yet, but have quarantined themselves.

[Slick470]

oof. Fingers crossed Rich.

[Jamie]

COVID testing has vanished from Florida. Completely overwhelmed.

EDIT: I'm wondering if everyone wants to get tested so they can attend July 4th celebrations?

Holy shit. That's not good.

I was notified by my daughters that my son-in-law who just returned from a lengthy military deployment last week, was laid up with fever for 3 days this week.
He tested positive for a strain of strep throat. He was tested for COVID but they don't have the results yet.

My daughters are not showing any symptoms yet, but have quarantined themselves.

Fingers crossed they remain safe.

To me it shows the depth of the failure of the government at the state level without the adult supervision and coordination at the Federal level - and now that there are no adults at the Federal level.... The state COVID hotline is no longer taking even taking appointments for a COVID test, "until further notice". The Governor pulled out some BS at news conference this afternoon, saying that Florida will not re-close. So think of this when you read the statistics. It takes a lot of work to get a COVID test, if you can get one at all.

[Ajax]

Sounds like we're all on our own. The gov't has failed, but I don't need gov't to tell me to mask up and stay the hell away from bars, theaters, indoor dining, etc.

I'm not living in a bunker, either. I spend time with people outdoors, we've replaced dining out with creative cooking, gardening and fishing. I'm somewhat interested in hunting but haven't delved into it yet. My personal life is different but overall, it's not bad.

It stuns me that as a society, individuals aren't mature enough to figure this out on their own.

[Benno von Humpback]

If you ask people, they may tell you that freedom and individualism are more important than personal or collective safety. This seems to be the consensus we've come to on motor vehicles, guns, and environmental spoliation. To me, climate change looks like a much greater catastrophe about which people are doing much, much less.

[BeauV]

I just sat through our weekly COVID Task Force meeting and we were joined by one of the Sr. Execs. from UCSF Medical School. There was the usual back and forth about where we are on Vaccines (nothing before the second quarter of 2021), herd immunity (can't happen unless at least 70% of the coutry catches and survives COVID-19, we're at about 4% now), and what can we be doing now (usual list of masks, washing hands, distancing, and avoiding people)

Then at the end, they dropped a bit of a bombshell. UCSF, the best-informed folks I know of in the field, said that they have a MANDATORY NO FLY rule for all personnel on commercial flights. Reasons:
1) Airlines are flying full aircraft
2) Unable or unwilling to enforce mandatory mask use
3) Unclear that their disinfecting routine really works, no scientific evidence or measurement
4) Lots of contact tracing has led back to flights on commercial airlines

Well, that put a damper on an already depressing meeting.

[Benno von Humpback]

I just sat through our weekly COVID Task Force meeting and we were joined by one of the Sr. Execs. from UCSF Medical School. There was the usual back and forth about where we are on Vaccines (nothing before the second quarter of 2021), herd immunity (can't happen unless at least 70% of the coutry catches and survives COVID-19, we're at about 4% now), and what can we be doing now (usual list of masks, washing hands, distancing, and avoiding people)

Then at the end, they dropped a bit of a bombshell. UCSF, the best-informed folks I know of in the field, said that they have a MANDATORY NO FLY rule for all personnel on commercial flights. Reasons:
1) Airlines are flying full aircraft
2) Unable or unwilling to enforce mandatory mask use
3) Unclear that their disinfecting routine really works, no scientific evidence or measurement
4) Lots of contact tracing has led back to flights on commercial airlines

Well, that put a damper on an already depressing meeting.

We have had a ban on all non-essential travel since March. No reason given except, “Duh!”

[Jamie]

Oh, great. I love a vacation that begins with doom and unmitigated failure.

We've not been traveling since Dec of last year.

[Anomaly]

Before you leave Italy, I need you to drive down to Cinque Frondi and take photos for me and speak to the mayor.

Well, Calabria is a loooong way from here... But, send me an email if you still have my address, or shoot me a PM via this forum.

[Ajax]

I refuse to get in an airplane. I will drive and haul my pop-up if I have to. I've managed to stay clean all this time in spite of working in the "hot zone" and I'm not going to catch it now.

[TheOffice]

We are flying to visit my sister and her kids in a couple weeks. We will get tested before going, as she is in her 70s.

Our trip to Greece is off. Our cheap nonstop flight was cancelled, and after dealing with Bermuda I can’t deal with the uncertainty of another quarantine. Instead we are going back to Monterey/San Fran/wine county in September.

Beau, hoping the SFYC dining room reopens by then.

Joel

[BeauV]

We are flying to visit my sister and her kids in a couple weeks. We will get tested before going, as she is in her 70s.

Our trip to Greece is off. Our cheap nonstop flight was cancelled, and after dealing with Bermuda I can’t deal with the uncertainty of another quarantine. Instead we are going back to Monterey/San Fran/wine county in September.

Beau, hoping the SFYC dining room reopens by then.

Joel

Joel,

Please let me know when you are in-town. If our club, StFYC (SFYC is on the other side of the GG bridge ), is open and if we can get guests in I'd be happy to host you. Right now, it's members-only, eating outside on the deck, only family households at the table. We were hopeful that SF would relax the rule against indoor dining in July, but with the big upswing in cases in CA that's off the table for now.

Regardless of all that, as you travel from SF to Monterey you'll drive within mortar range of our house. Give a shout and we can either talk to each other from far away with masks on or perhaps go out on MAYAN depending on how things are going. September is spectacular in our area, a good choice; but you probably knew that.

BV

[TheOffice]

Beau,

That's an offer I can't refuse!
We land in SFO on the 8th and head to Monterey. We head to Napa/Sonoma on the 11. We've only got Sept 20-21 in San Fran. I hope Seven Hills is open for dinner by then!

Joel

[BeauV]

Beau,

That's an offer I can't refuse!
We land in SFO on the 8th and head to Monterey. We head to Napa/Sonoma on the 11. We've only got Sept 20-21 in San Fran. I hope Seven Hills is open for dinner by then!

Joel

Well, with those dates it's highly probable MAYAN will be in SF. Sept 20th is the last day of Rolex Big Boat Series, we're already entered. Fingers crossed it will still be held. We're trying hard not to cancel. Sept 7th is the end of the Labor Day Cruise to Tinsley Island (StFYC outstation) in the San Joaquin River Delta and we'll be attending that. We will probably transit to the San Francisco Clubhouse on either the 8th or 9th. Sept 11-13 is Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival, so we're going to try and head up there for that. But we've missed it recently as we're converting MAYAN from "Cruise Mode" to "Race Mode" during that weekend. That means offloading about 2,000 pounds of gear and loading 6 sails and rigging.

Anywhere in there, just let us know what works for you.

[JoeP]

Good News! I think my State Rep gave ESD a little "encouragement". My Claims are now all paid and future ones will be as well.

[SemiSalt]

Good News! I think my State Rep gave ESD a little "encouragement". My Claims are now all paid and future ones will be as well.

Good news for sure.

[Slick470]

Yay, glad to hear that the system worked for you Joe!

[kimbottles]

Beau,

That's an offer I can't refuse!
We land in SFO on the 8th and head to Monterey. We head to Napa/Sonoma on the 11. We've only got Sept 20-21 in San Fran. I hope Seven Hills is open for dinner by then!

Joel

Well, with those dates it's highly probable MAYAN will be in SF. Sept 20th is the last day of Rolex Big Boat Series, we're already entered. Fingers crossed it will still be held. We're trying hard not to cancel. Sept 7th is the end of the Labor Day Cruise to Tinsley Island (StFYC outstation) in the San Joaquin River Delta and we'll be attending that. We will probably transit to the San Francisco Clubhouse on either the 8th or 9th. Sept 11-13 is Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival, so we're going to try and head up there for that. But we've missed it recently as we're converting MAYAN from "Cruise Mode" to "Race Mode" during that weekend. That means offloading about 2,000 pounds of gear and loading 6 sails and rigging.

Anywhere in there, just let us know what works for you.

Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival has been canceled for 2020.

[TheOffice]

Bummer that the Festival was cancelled.

We are headed to RI in a couple weeks to see my sister. We decided to get tested. Called the County health department Thursday. Got appointments for Friday. Drive thru. 5 minutes in and out. Results in 3-5 days. Could not have been easier.

Joel

[cap10ed]

Beau can i have your permission to copy your airline synopsis. In Canada the same bag of tricks is up. Fill the plane and pretend its done to a standard.




Then at the end, they dropped a bit of a bombshell. UCSF, the best-informed folks I know of in the field, said that they have a MANDATORY NO FLY rule for all personnel on commercial flights. Reasons:
1) Airlines are flying full aircraft
2) Unable or unwilling to enforce mandatory mask use
3) Unclear that their disinfecting routine really works, no scientific evidence or measurement
4) Lots of contact tracing has led back to flights on commercial airlines

Well, that put a damper on an already depressing meeting.[/quote]

[BeauV]

Ed,

Use it if you like. It's not rocket science. I was just pretty startled to hear the head of UCSF say all 55,000 UCSF employees (the largest employer in San Francisco after the City itself) issue an absolute NO FLY rule.

Beau

Beau can i have your permission to copy your airline synopsis. In Canada the same bag of tricks is up. Fill the plane and pretend its done to a standard.




Then at the end, they dropped a bit of a bombshell. UCSF, the best-informed folks I know of in the field, said that they have a MANDATORY NO FLY rule for all personnel on commercial flights. Reasons:
1) Airlines are flying full aircraft
2) Unable or unwilling to enforce mandatory mask use
3) Unclear that their disinfecting routine really works, no scientific evidence or measurement
4) Lots of contact tracing has led back to flights on commercial airlines

Well, that put a damper on an already depressing meeting.

[/quote]

[Jamie]

Welp....I wouldn’t recommend flying commercial anytime soon. The asshattery at the airport is impressive. Everything seems designed to maximize the chance of transmission. I’d say 70% of the people are reasonable-ish, and 30% are flagrantly flouting the rules or are not paying attention . I’d say we’re fcucked.

[Ajax]

Dude, stop flying! Rent a car, tell your employer to fuck off. Protect yourself.

[JoeP]

Dude, stop flying! Rent a car, tell your employer to fuck off. Protect yourself.

That's what my nephew did. He had to get to his new job with the EPA in DC and decided to drive there with a friend to the Grand Canyon, up I-40 to Albuquerque, then down though Texas and along the Gulf Coast and up to Washington.

[Ajax]

Here's a big corona-laugh for you:

Scot(?) of Sailing Anarchy posted a photo of the Mackinac Race Committee posing for a post-race photo. Older folks, outdoors on a dock, unmasked, near each other but no one was dry-humping anyone.
He pitched a fit about it and called it "white privilege." WTF does this have to do with race? Covid-iots? Sure.

A scant day later, he posted a photo of himself and several friends all clumped up in the cockpit of his new-to-him Ericson 35, all without masks. Hypocrisy much?

I opined that some context in the first photo was called for. I asked: Were these people in close proximity all day? Were they unmasked all day? Were they in open air all day? How long were they gathered for the group photo? Only a few seconds? A minute?

Other commenters shot me down, insisting on masks 24/7, indoors, outdoors, in any size gathering of people. You'd have thought that I said the virus was a hoax or that I was anti-mask from their reaction. The whole thing was so absurd that I literally couldn't take it seriously so I wasn't upset or bothered by the exchange. It was so ludicrous that all I could do, was shake my head. I really did laugh out loud at the photo of Scot with his friends all piled up in the cockpit of his boat, unmasked. Too funny.

I realize that he does things deliberately to be provocative to drive clicks.

[TheOffice]

We went to EYC for dinner Wednesday. Not one boat had crew wearing masks-even the boat whose skipper had masks made to match the chute.

now that masks are mandatory in the County, I wonder if that will change (probably not).

One West River skipper requires masks, until they get back to the dock and sit in the cockpit and drink. Defeats the purpose!

[Benno von Humpback]

We went to EYC for dinner Wednesday. Not one boat had crew wearing masks-even the boat whose skipper had masks made to match the chute.

now that masks are mandatory in the County, I wonder if that will change (probably not).

One West River skipper requires masks, until they get back to the dock and sit in the cockpit and drink. Defeats the purpose!

I am pretty relaxed about masks outdoors, but I'm not going to restaurants or yacht clubs for dinner.

[Ajax]

Team masks that match the 'chute- That is seriously clever. Too bad it didn't work. I suspect the heat has something to do with it.

I am still seriously isolating so I'm pretty ignorant about what's going on, I guess. My most recent contact with non-co-workers was my July 4th cruise. That was my first interaction with "friends" since this whole thing started in March.

Looking back, our social distancing wasn't perfect. The men and women split up for cocktails in the cockpits of 2 boats on the first day. Open air with a good breeze but close enough that we should have worn masks. Pot luck was out in the open air and we all kept an appropriate distance but we shared food. We did set out wipes and sanitizer. We didn't share plates, cups or utensils. No one used public restrooms or showers. We wore masks (even outdoors) whenever we mingled with people outside of our group at the marinas we stopped at. We never at at restaurants (not even outdoors).

My wife and I used a swimming pool at Hinckley Yacht Yard but we were the only people in it. We had it all to ourselves. I grade the group an 80% out of 100. Rum kills COVID, right?

[Benno von Humpback]

Team masks that match the 'chute- That is seriously clever. Too bad it didn't work. I suspect the heat has something to do with it.

I am still seriously isolating so I'm pretty ignorant about what's going on, I guess. My most recent contact with non-co-workers was my July 4th cruise. That was my first interaction with "friends" since this whole thing started in March.

Looking back, our social distancing wasn't perfect. The men and women split up for cocktails in the cockpits of 2 boats on the first day. Open air with a good breeze but close enough that we should have worn masks. Pot luck was out in the open air and we all kept an appropriate distance but we shared food. We did set out wipes and sanitizer. We didn't share plates, cups or utensils. No one used public restrooms or showers. We wore masks (even outdoors) whenever we mingled with people outside of our group at the marinas we stopped at. We never at at restaurants (not even outdoors).

My wife and I used a swimming pool at Hinckley Yacht Yard but we were the only people in it. We had it all to ourselves. I grade the group an 80% out of 100. Rum kills COVID, right?

Doesn't sound very risky to me. It's all outdoors, where aerosols don't persist. The chance of getting it from any, randomly selected, individual person is very small and smaller from your friends unless they're occupationally exposed or stupid. I've been in a pool with people and spouse is swimming several time as week.

Unless you can find ≥ 120 proof rum, no.

[Ajax]

Dang. Even my Naval Strength rum is only 114 proof.

My friends are mostly retired so they're isolating pretty hard. One of them had cancer and is undergoing chemo so they have been especially careful. The ones who are still working were all tele-working.

If anything, I am the vector because I'm the only one still going to work at the office every day.