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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby BeauV » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:11 pm

Joel, I'm really sorry to hear this. Fingers crossed that it's not COVID. I have heard that testing is swamped all over the country, folks trying to get tested in time to visit relatives. My thoughts are with you. Beau
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Benno von Humpback » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:26 pm

Holy crap, Joel! Hope it's not COVID-19 and if it is, that it's mild and no one else around you gets it.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Jamie » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:49 pm

Finger's crossed that it's not COVID.
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Postby TheOffice » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:54 pm

Thanks guys!
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Postby kimbottles » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:24 pm

Jamie wrote:Finger's crossed that it's not COVID.


Ditto on Jamie’s comment!
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby JoeP » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:20 pm

Sending "negative" thoughts your way Joel. Hoping for the best!
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Postby JoeP » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:21 pm

Sending "negative" thoughts your way Joel. Hoping for the best!
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby TheOffice » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:47 am

The quarantine is over! Last night Sue got worried about my breathing and took me to Hopkins. All the tests were negative. Apparently I have viral pneumonia. It should resolve on its own. I’m prescribing a Sunday afternoon sail.
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Postby Slick470 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:12 am

Glad to hear it's not the rona, but sorry about the pneumonia, which doesn't sound like much fun either.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby LarryHoward » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:54 am

TheOffice wrote:The quarantine is over! Last night Sue got worried about my breathing and took me to Hopkins. All the tests were negative. Apparently I have viral pneumonia. It should resolve on its own. I’m prescribing a Sunday afternoon sail.
Joel


A strange time when we say “only pneumonia” but happy to hear the news.
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Postby Jamie » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:07 am

With all of the distancing, masks, hand sanitizer, hand washing...etc..who would of thought of pneumonia?

Good news :wtf:
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Postby BeauV » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:47 pm

TheOffice wrote:The quarantine is over! Last night Sue got worried about my breathing and took me to Hopkins. All the tests were negative. Apparently I have viral pneumonia. It should resolve on its own. I’m prescribing a Sunday afternoon sail.
Joel


I'm guessing you've never been thrilled to get a diagnosis of pneumonia before!!!??

Take care of yourself. My lovely Admiral has had it twice and if you don't take care it can scar your lungs and make re-infection later on quicker and tougher to get rid of.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Benno von Humpback » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:57 pm

TheOffice wrote:The quarantine is over! Last night Sue got worried about my breathing and took me to Hopkins. All the tests were negative. Apparently I have viral pneumonia. It should resolve on its own. I’m prescribing a Sunday afternoon sail.
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Good news, but still no joke! Is everyone sure it’s not a false negative?

Group ride was canceled today because...you guessed it.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby LarryHoward » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:37 pm

Just got the word that my principal deputy (Ops Director) got results this afternoon from a Covid test last Sunday. Positive. He has been quarantining all week since developing cough, etc last weekend. Fortunately, I enforce strict mask requirements when out of a private office and we have limited in person meetings. (Interesting to attend conference calls with folks in the same 25k sq ft complex). Checking the calendars, we had a 30 minute in person budget meeting on the 18th. Other than that, only short meetings while masked up.

Feeling OK about it as data show vast majority will show symptoms in about 5 days and the CDC is starting to recommend less than 14 days as a “safe period.

While I think our governor is doing a pretty good job, I’d trade out current 52k tests per day (0.85% of the population) for 1-2 day PCR results instead of close to a week.
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Postby JoeP » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:08 am

We found out that somebody we know in Houston has Covid 19 and has just had his tube removed and will be headed to therapy for recovery. Hopefully the after effects will not be bad.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby TheOffice » Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:43 am

Benno von Humpback wrote:Good news, but still no joke! Is everyone sure it’s not a false negative?

Group ride was canceled today because...you guessed it.


Three tests were all negative. Because it’s viral no meds. Still not feeling great but glad it’s not Covid
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Tim Ford » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:52 am

Glad to hear it's not the rona, Joel!

Hey, forgive me please, for the way my dim brain works. Maybe someone has already pointed this out. I hope so. E.g., I hope I'm not the only sick SOB on the internets, but:

I've taken the figures from Maryland, that show 87% of the deaths in our state are people 60 years of age or older.

Then, taking that figure and extrapolating to the rest of the country and the current total death, 87% of 268,103 deaths = 233,249 deaths over the age of 60.

Assuming those deaths result in a curtailment of cash for SSA and Medicare payments, and using a very low figure of $10,000 per person per year, I come up with an astounding 23 trillion USD per year in federal government savings.

Is my logic incorrect? Could this be a silver-lining, albeit a grim one, of the pandemic? Apologies in advance for my insensitivity!
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Postby TheOffice » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:28 am

Tim,

Sort of like arguing that abortion saves taxpayers money. Yes, its true, but you can't suggest we not vaccinate people to save Medicare and social security.
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Postby Tim Ford » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:44 am

Oh my god, no...never meant to imply that (and you are one sick pup to even suggest it :lol: :lol: )

No I was strictly proposing the numbers from an actuarial or fiscal perspective. You're on your own when it comes to policy proposals....

...as long as I am first in line for a vaccination! 8-)
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby JoeP » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:33 pm

I just installed WA Notify on my phone. It is an exposure notification app developed by Google and Apple to alert users if they have been close enough to people with Covid to warrant isolation and/or getting tested. There are about 20 other states participating according to local news reports. It is all voluntary so I hope enough people use it to make it worthwhile.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Olaf Hart » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:00 pm

JoeP wrote:I just installed WA Notify on my phone. It is an exposure notification app developed by Google and Apple to alert users if they have been close enough to people with Covid to warrant isolation and/or getting tested. There are about 20 other states participating according to local news reports. It is all voluntary so I hope enough people use it to make it worthwhile.


That sounds like a good idea, especially if it logs exposure time and environment, like outdoors vs indoors.
May be a problem though if there is a high background exposure rate, and probably relies on positive people notifying it to work well.
We have an app here that uses Bluetooth to log distance and exposure time to nearby phones, it is really designed to help contact tracers and doesn’t give information to the owner.
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Postby kimbottles » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:26 pm

JoeP wrote:I just installed WA Notify on my phone. It is an exposure notification app developed by Google and Apple to alert users if they have been close enough to people with Covid to warrant isolation and/or getting tested. There are about 20 other states participating according to local news reports. It is all voluntary so I hope enough people use it to make it worthwhile.


We did too when we received the email from Governor Inslee.

(I get a Covid test next Tuesday to clear me for chemo port removal.)
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby LarryHoward » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:46 pm

Olaf Hart wrote:
JoeP wrote:I just installed WA Notify on my phone. It is an exposure notification app developed by Google and Apple to alert users if they have been close enough to people with Covid to warrant isolation and/or getting tested. There are about 20 other states participating according to local news reports. It is all voluntary so I hope enough people use it to make it worthwhile.


That sounds like a good idea, especially if it logs exposure time and environment, like outdoors vs indoors.
May be a problem though if there is a high background exposure rate, and probably relies on positive people notifying it to work well.
We have an app here that uses Bluetooth to log distance and exposure time to nearby phones, it is really designed to help contact tracers and doesn’t give information to the owner.


The one available here has a rep for lots of nuisance alarms. Apparently exposure time isn’t captured so if you walked by someone in the previous 14 days and they pop positive in that timeframe, you get an alert. Since it’s taking 4-6 days to get PCR results and the false negatives from the rapid test have the doctors avoiding it (and doing a PCR anyway to confirm a positive or if you have symptoms and a rapid test negative) we are counting more on symptomatic folks getting a test and then self isolating until results come in. Given we have an ad hoc group here titled “free St Mary’s” that actively fights masks, closures, etc, you can be sure that we have lots of “infected but awaiting test results” folks walking around, many with poor mask compliance. We probably deserve this wave.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Benno von Humpback » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:59 pm

I loaded it. No alarms so far.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby kimbottles » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:10 pm

Benno von Humpback wrote:I loaded it. No alarms so far.


None here yet....
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby LarryHoward » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:21 pm

kimbottles wrote:
Benno von Humpback wrote:I loaded it. No alarms so far.


None here yet....


Might enable it and give it a try.

My biggest concern now is mixed messages on when a confirmed positive can return to work. My deputy’s Doc and the health department are telling him free of fever and he can come back, even with a residual cough that they say will take a while to clear up. Testing no good as he will shed dead virus for perhaps a few months so will test positive based on that. He suggested coming back this Thursday but I told him to wait until next week and get something from the doc saying he’s good to come back.

My Son in law and daughter experienced something similar. Exposed to another couple who both developed COVID. They recovers quickly and were cleared to go back to work in less than 10 days. My exposed kids have to quarantine for 14 days just in case.

Tough situation. Hard to run an “essential business” and do all you can to protect the employees. Particularly when about 1/2 can’t work remotely and are 1 paycheck from real hardship.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Steele » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:26 am

We are still using 10 days from initiation of illness, or 3 days after symptoms are gone, whichever is longer.
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Tigger » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:28 am

The Federal Government was pushing an ap, but the Provincial Government is of the opinion that it is so flawed as to be useless, so they did not encourage people to go that route. Perhaps if a better one comes along ...
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby Benno von Humpback » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:46 am

kimbottles wrote:
Benno von Humpback wrote:I loaded it. No alarms so far.


None here yet....

My risk is so low that I expect few pings. I go to work, where everyone is supposed to get tested once a week and there’s been virtually no transmission, to the commissary once a week, and on the occasional group ride (until last weekend when a guy tested +).
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Re: Conoravirus ...

Postby LarryHoward » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:52 am

Benno von Humpback wrote:
kimbottles wrote:
Benno von Humpback wrote:I loaded it. No alarms so far.


None here yet....

My risk is so low that I expect few pings. I go to work, where everyone is supposed to get tested once a week and there’s been virtually no transmission, to the commissary once a week, and on the occasional group ride (until last weekend when a guy tested +).


Well, I enabled it so we’ll see what happens.
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