A question of table manners & human relations

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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Bull City » Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:58 pm

This Tuesday is pub after soccer night. If the Salad Lover orders one and starts his routine, I think I'll ask him if he's enjoying the salad. I'll report what happens.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby SloopJonB » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:30 pm

You mean you're not taking Joe's recommendation?
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Ish » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:31 pm

Bull City wrote:^^ I will show this to my wife and declare that she is very lucky to have me.


Ditto. It will be met with the usual response, I'm sure.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby IrieMon » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:22 pm

Reminds me of a story when I first met my wife..... her sister from Tampa (rode hard, put away... ah....forget it) visited about 2 months into our "relationship" and was not impressed I drove a shiny, brand new pickup.

"Hope he has something else going for him".... Jan answered, "He has good table manners". Guess that sealed the deal :lol:

Her sister is the first woman from Tampa I ever met who cared about table manners. Down in that neck of the woods, a full set of molars is over-the-top :crazy:
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby SloopJonB » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:59 am

Bull, we're all waiting with bated breath to hear what happened with "salad eater" last Tuesday. :D
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Bull City » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:04 pm

Well, the fucking guy showed up for soccer, but didn't go the pub. I'll keep on it.

BTW, his name is Pat (and a dumb feckin' Mick he is).
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Bull City » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:18 pm

SloopJonB wrote:You mean you're not taking Joe's recommendation?

After giving this more thought, Joe's suggestion is very good. Pat is very thick from a human relations standpoint, and subtlety passes right by him. I may not "wack him upside the head," but a simple and direct "STOP EATING LIKE THAT!" may be just the thing. His wife would probably make us a nice pie.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby kdh » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:36 pm

Bull City wrote:Well, the fucking guy showed up for soccer, but didn't go the pub. I'll keep on it.

BTW, his name is Pat (and a dumb feckin' Mick he is).


What is a "Mick?"
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby kimbottles » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:40 pm

kdh wrote:
Bull City wrote:Well, the fucking guy showed up for soccer, but didn't go the pub. I'll keep on it.

BTW, his name is Pat (and a dumb feckin' Mick he is).


What is a "Mick?"


Yeah! What's a "Mick"?
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Orestes Munn » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:44 pm

You guys serious?
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Olaf Hart » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:25 pm

I think a mick is an Irishman,
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Orestes Munn » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:48 pm

Olaf Hart wrote:I think a mick is an Irishman,


...and like a milder N-word, only Irishmen get to use it without hard feelings, especially with dumb feckin before it.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby SloopJonB » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:39 pm

A variation of the famous line in "The Commitments" - "We're the n*****s of Europe". :shock:
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Ish » Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:26 am

SloopJonB wrote:A variation of the famous line in "The Commitments" - "We're the n*****s of Europe". :shock:


I thought those were the wops. I can't keep up.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Tucky » Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:07 am

I love that scene- "Say it loud. I'm black and I'm proud" sounds special with an irish accent.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby BeauV » Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:42 pm

Ish wrote:
SloopJonB wrote:A variation of the famous line in "The Commitments" - "We're the n*****s of Europe". :shock:


I thought those were the wops. I can't keep up.


Being a "W.O.P." actually has nothing to do with nationality. It stands for With Out Papers and a note saying that was pinned to the chest of every Ellis Island crosser who was W.O.P. When this technique was in use, most W.O.P. emigrants were Italian, so in some parts where the slower amongst us didn't understand, WOP was mostly a name for Italians.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby JoeP » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:02 pm

My grandfather on my father's side would have been referred to derogatorily as a "bohunk" having emigrated from the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Orestes Munn » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:08 pm

BeauV wrote:
Ish wrote:
SloopJonB wrote:A variation of the famous line in "The Commitments" - "We're the n*****s of Europe". :shock:


I thought those were the wops. I can't keep up.


Being a "W.O.P." actually has nothing to do with nationality. It stands for With Out Papers and a note saying that was pinned to the chest of every Ellis Island crosser who was W.O.P. When this technique was in use, most W.O.P. emigrants were Italian, so in some parts where the slower amongst us didn't understand, WOP was mostly a name for Italians.

I have heard it comes from "guapo," the Spanish for handsome or something.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wop
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby BeauV » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:05 pm

JoeP wrote:My grandfather on my father's side would have been referred to derogatorily as a "bohunk" having emigrated from the Austro-Hungarian Empire.


I stand corrected on wop.

My nic name, Beau, is a derivative of "bohunk". My god-father was hungarian and called me the "little bohunk" as I was newly arrived.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Orestes Munn » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:20 pm

BeauV wrote:
JoeP wrote:My grandfather on my father's side would have been referred to derogatorily as a "bohunk" having emigrated from the Austro-Hungarian Empire.


I stand corrected on wop.

My nic name, Beau, is a derivative of "bohunk". My god-father was hungarian and called me the "little bohunk" as I was newly arrived.

No kidding. I was thinking Beauregard or something.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby SloopJonB » Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:58 pm

BeauV wrote:
Ish wrote:
SloopJonB wrote:A variation of the famous line in "The Commitments" - "We're the n*****s of Europe". :shock:


I thought those were the wops. I can't keep up.


Being a "W.O.P." actually has nothing to do with nationality. It stands for With Out Papers and a note saying that was pinned to the chest of every Ellis Island crosser who was W.O.P. When this technique was in use, most W.O.P. emigrants were Italian, so in some parts where the slower amongst us didn't understand, WOP was mostly a name for Italians.


I once heard that the British slur "Wog" - as in "The Wogs begin at Calais" - was derived from a similar situation. When they dug Suez the locals were only allowed in the canal zone as day labour. They were identified with W.O.G.S. on their backs for "Working On Government Service" and henceforth were known as Wogs.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby BeauV » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:02 pm

SloopJonB wrote:
BeauV wrote:
Ish wrote:
SloopJonB wrote:A variation of the famous line in "The Commitments" - "We're the n*****s of Europe". :shock:


I thought those were the wops. I can't keep up.


Being a "W.O.P." actually has nothing to do with nationality. It stands for With Out Papers and a note saying that was pinned to the chest of every Ellis Island crosser who was W.O.P. When this technique was in use, most W.O.P. emigrants were Italian, so in some parts where the slower amongst us didn't understand, WOP was mostly a name for Italians.


I once heard that the British slur "Wog" - as in "The Wogs begin at Calais" - was derived from a similar situation. When they dug Suez the locals were only allowed in the canal zone as day labour. They were identified with W.O.G.S. on their backs for "Working On Government Service" and henceforth were known as Wogs.


Reminds me of POMEs (Prisoner Of Mother England) - correct usage: "He is a wingeing Pome".
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Orestes Munn » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:21 pm

SloopJonB wrote:
BeauV wrote:
Ish wrote:
SloopJonB wrote:A variation of the famous line in "The Commitments" - "We're the n*****s of Europe". :shock:


I thought those were the wops. I can't keep up.


Being a "W.O.P." actually has nothing to do with nationality. It stands for With Out Papers and a note saying that was pinned to the chest of every Ellis Island crosser who was W.O.P. When this technique was in use, most W.O.P. emigrants were Italian, so in some parts where the slower amongst us didn't understand, WOP was mostly a name for Italians.


I once heard that the British slur "Wog" - as in "The Wogs begin at Calais" - was derived from a similar situation. When they dug Suez the locals were only allowed in the canal zone as day labour. They were identified with W.O.G.S. on their backs for "Working On Government Service" and henceforth were known as Wogs.

And I know an Englishman who swears it stands for Western Oriental Gentleman. Actually, it's short for gollywog.

Also shit doesn't stand for Ship High in Transit, Fuck doesn't stand for Fornication without Consent of the King, and cop isn't Constable on Patrol. Tip doesn not stand for To "insure" Promptness, either. :)

Oh and posh is not Port Out, Starboard Home.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby SloopJonB » Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:40 pm

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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Olaf Hart » Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:17 pm

Orestes Munn wrote:
Olaf Hart wrote:I think a mick is an Irishman,


...and like a milder N-word, only Irishmen get to use it without hard feelings, especially with dumb feckin before it.


So I guess as an Irish citizen I should resemble that remark.

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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Ish » Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:18 am

Olaf Hart wrote:
Orestes Munn wrote:
Olaf Hart wrote:I think a mick is an Irishman,


...and like a milder N-word, only Irishmen get to use it without hard feelings, especially with dumb feckin before it.


So I guess as an Irish citizen I should resemble that remark.

https://www.facebook.com/asirishasitgets/


How many citizenships do you have?
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Olaf Hart » Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:27 am

Just two at the moment, but still open to offers.

I have three Fellowships, which are next to useless once I learn how to retire.

I could start a collection, problem is US would probably be the next one and I don't like how they tax foreign income.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby kdh » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:02 pm

Orestes Munn wrote:And I know an Englishman who swears it stands for Western Oriental Gentleman. Actually, it's short for gollywog.

Also shit doesn't stand for Ship High in Transit, Fuck doesn't stand for Fornication without Consent of the King, and cop isn't Constable on Patrol. Tip doesn not stand for To "insure" Promptness, either. :)

Oh and posh is not Port Out, Starboard Home.


I think the general rule is that acronyms are a recent phenomenon. I try to avoid them.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby Orestes Munn » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:29 pm

kdh wrote:
Orestes Munn wrote:And I know an Englishman who swears it stands for Western Oriental Gentleman. Actually, it's short for gollywog.

Also shit doesn't stand for Ship High in Transit, Fuck doesn't stand for Fornication without Consent of the King, and cop isn't Constable on Patrol. Tip doesn not stand for To "insure" Promptness, either. :)

Oh and posh is not Port Out, Starboard Home.


I think the general rule is that acronyms are a recent phenomenon. I try to avoid them.

In the USG, they are SOP and a staple of every BOGSAT.
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Re: A question of table manners & human relations

Postby LarryHoward » Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:49 pm

Olaf Hart wrote:Just two at the moment, but still open to offers.

I have three Fellowships, which are next to useless once I learn how to retire.

I could start a collection, problem is US would probably be the next one and I don't like how they tax foreign income.


Generally only us sourced income is taxed in the US if you pay taxes in the country they you earn it. IOW (in other words for Keith), a US expat in Aud pays US taxes only on US sources income and country of residence tax on income sourced in the country of residence. Some exceptions so hot mileag3797706545SP may vary. SWBMO and I actually talked about moving back to VIC when looking at the presidential candidates on offer and considering eventual retirement. She retains dual status and can sponsor me.....
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